LTD..Its not the guitar, its the player

[kramerSquatch]

Skid Row, well seasoned 80's veterans we can all agree (well maybe not all). But hey have proven they know how to rock...:34 seconds in playing an LTD. And again at 1:50.

Makes me feel better about buying lower end guitars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk_nU...feature=relmfu

[kramerSquatch]

Hell...he may have got it from MF.com as used or with a coupon

[RockinJim]

There are some notable players using LTDs. But IMO that clip doesn't sound too good.

[KickstartMyHeart]

Aaah, one of my fave bands. Their debut is still on my alltimehigh-list. Their sophomore not so except maybe "In a darkened room". But who the f@€k is this singer. Sounds like one big heap o' shite. I know that Seb Bach isn't up to his former self/voice nowadays but this guy shouldn't be allowed into this band. But that's just me and my sole opinion.

Greets,
Christian

P.S.: Nothin to say against a budget guitar even if one is up to his game and finds his way without breaking fingers from low to high E.

[KramerBassFan]

There are some notable players using LTDs. But IMO that clip doesn't sound too good.

+1

I like SR as much as anybody.... but damn guys come on!

[sixstring]

That mix is def. not off the board.

Fingers more than quality of guitar, IMO.

[Rick S]

So, buying a $5000 guitar won't make you an awesome player just by buying it? Ok, I can finally see that now. But what about the guy with 80 guitars? That has to mean he's an awesome player. Right?

[Holzar88]

He's playing the new(ish) MH-327, which is like a $599 guitar. They're pretty nice axes, really. I've thought about nabbing one.

Neck through, ebony, mid-level Floyd (which they've probably swapped out, I'd bet). Prob. dropped their choice of pups in, too.

Really, not THAT far off, spec-wise, from a hum sing Stagey.

[Louthedog]

So, buying a $5000 guitar won't make you an awesome player just by buying it? Ok, I can finally see that now. But what about the guy with 80 guitars? That has to mean he's an awesome player. Right?

I have 50 axes and know all 3 chords... :happy1

[KickstartMyHeart]

... and know all 3 chords... :happy1

there is a 3rd chord? Jeez, that explains a lot!

[kramerSquatch]

But what about the guy with 80 guitars? That has to mean he's an awesome player. Right?

I dunno, are they all LTDs?

[popvamp]

I dunno, are they all LTDs?

or Squier's? :happy1

[Heinz]

Nothing wrong with lower/mid level guitars at all, especially in the last 10 years. They all can be set up and played about equally well nowadays; the difference is 1) quality of materials, construction, parts, and finish, and 2) stage bling.

[Kostas Dee]

It has always been about the player,i do believe though that chinese stuff suck big time

[Rick S]

I like LTDs.

I dunno, are they all LTDs?

I don't own an LTD but I do have some Chinese built equipment. Not a whole lot but a handful of stuff. All of it sounds or plays as it should. I absolutely love my Epiphone Masterbilt acoustic. Incredible feel and sound. Handmade. Zero issues. Same with my VJs and my new VHT Special 6 Ultra. I have a few Chinese made pedals. They work perfect. I have yet to find this blatant 'poor workmanship'. So, where is it?

[Axe]

Every time I get a new instrument, if it doesn't immediately make me an exponentially better player then I automatically draw the conclusion that Clearly, it MUST be defective and I send it back

I send a LOT of em back

[kramerpacer]

This thread reminds me of the time a friend who is a GC salesman told me of the time a fellow came in and bought a Carvin legacy head and cabinet half stack and a high end Ibanez Jem then called back a few days later asking 'why the f*ck he didn't sound like Steve Vai"

[Ghast]

Wow, this singer straight up sucks when it comes to hitting the high notes. So far off it's not even funny. He seems like an alright dude and not a bad front man in general, but I just don't think he's a good replacement for Sebastian. I guess he's good buds with the rest of the band for them not to have found someone better over the last 13 years.

Sorry, I know this was originally about the LTD guitar but after hearing this guy butcher enough songs I couldn't help myself from commenting on it.

[smorgdonkey]

LTD guitars are excellent...particularly the Korean ones which I have more experience with.

The thing is, of course a great player can make any guitar sound better. Great playing is great playing. If the intonation is in and the thing doesn't keep cutting out & holds tune half-decent then it will sound great with a great player.

All things being equal...great player on crap vs. great player on great gear?

It'll be the great gear every time.

[Bastardo]

I like LTDs.



I don't own an LTD but I do have some Chinese built equipment. Not a whole lot but a handful of stuff. All of it sounds or plays as it should. I absolutely love my Epiphone Masterbilt acoustic. Incredible feel and sound. Handmade. Zero issues. Same with my VJs and my new VHT Special 6 Ultra. I have a few Chinese made pedals. They work perfect. I have yet to find this blatant 'poor workmanship'. So, where is it?

Agree 100 %

Most of the problems with chinese made equipment these days are control quality issues fails, not poor workmanship anymore IMHO

[Bastardo]

All things being equal...great player on crap vs. great player on great gear?

What about great player on crap gear vs crap player on great gear?

I´d go for the first

[KickstartMyHeart]

All things being equal...great player on crap vs. great player on great gear?

It'll be the great gear every time.

Hm, if that´s it, you´re right. But what about a mediocre player with great gear vs. a great player with chinese junk? My bets´d be on the great player anytime

Greets,

Christian

[kramerSquatch]

I was just surprised to see him using an LTD, thats all I was saying. And I was glad to see "pro" players using the same equipment I buy. Thats all.

Just an interesting observation.

[smorgdonkey]

What about great player on crap gear vs crap player on great gear?

Hm, if that´s it, you´re right. But what about a mediocre player with great gear vs. a great player with chinese junk?

It al depends upon how crappy the gear...if the guitar goes out of tune like crazy or the amp keeps cutting out - I'll take the better gear.

I was just surprised to see him using an LTD, thats all I was saying. And I was glad to see "pro" players using the same equipment I buy. Thats all.

Just an interesting observation.

Indeed. Stuff generally only reaches a certain point of quality, then after that it is detail and bling/special appointments.

[warbrill]

there is a 3rd chord? Jeez, that explains a lot!

I thought it was just country AND western ... that's two, right? ;-)