Jersey Star tech questions

[Dustin]

Hey guys,

My JS came in the mail about an hour ago. After setting it up following the OFR instructions, I'm finding that the only way to get decent action is to raise the floyd up considerably to the point of it floating. I don't want it to float. I prefer it to sit on the body, and just dive down. It looks like the neck is shimmed. Can anyone confirm that there is a shim in the neck? I adjusted it to take the bow out, and things only improved.

The first fret buzzes on all strings. Sounds like I may need to shim the nut too.

Bought this one off dabay, but it was never played. There is certainly no doubt in my mind that this is true. The thing appears perfect, and with the original plastic wrap still in place from MusicYo.

Would appreciate some advice on how to proceed. I'm new to floyds, and don't want to screw anything up.

thanks,

- D

[NightRider]

take that neck off...if it has a shim in the front off the pocket(bridge side)... take it out... if it doesn't then shim the back part(headstock) side... good luck...

[RockStringBender]

+1 on that. Mine came from the factory setup floating. I think the design is to have it about 1/8- 3/16 off the deck and to float.

If you have not adjusted truss rods take her to a tech as you can do more bad than good without some experience/training........... But ......... that string rattle seems like (if everything else is proper) it might need the truss rod turned a tiny bit counterclockwise to me.....

How much did you get it for????

[Dustin]

I'm pretty familiar with adjusting truss rods. It came fairly well setup, but there was a slight bow. I tightend it a bit, and it now appears to be perfectly straight. I'm starting to lean more towards bringing it to a tech. I may take the neck off to see whats going on.

I got the guitar for $740.00 shipped.

I appreciate the help guys.

[RockStringBender]

Good deal on the price. You want a very slight relief on the neck when the strings are in-tension, most say to fret the 1st or 2nd and 14th frets and get about .010" (credit card) room at the 6th fret between the string and fret. If it buzzes at the upper frets I ALWAYS take it to someone with better instruments than i have: the lower ones buzzing almost always just need a very slight turn of the rod. If you get one that only buzzes on the 2 e strings it's like a RCH truss turn (VERY VERY Little).

Wishing you luck. If you have the right tool for the TR take one more try and put a bit of relief in the neck.

[bkeen]

The neck should have a slight bow in it. It shouldn't be totally straight.

The JS's are intended to float although very slightly because if you have it sitting hard on the deck it will be pressing against the fine tuner tension fingers on the belly of the floyd which is not desireable. (IMO)

[mmmtacos]

Yea, mine came from Yo with a matchstick size shim. I took it out immediately

[Dustin]

Good deal on the price. You want a very slight relief on the neck when the strings are in-tension, most say to fret the 1st or 2nd and 14th frets and get about .010" (credit card) room at the 6th fret between the string and fret. If it buzzes at the upper frets I ALWAYS take it to someone with better instruments than i have: the lower ones buzzing almost always just need a very slight turn of the rod. If you get one that only buzzes on the 2 e strings it's like a RCH truss turn (VERY VERY Little).

Wishing you luck. If you have the right tool for the TR take one more try and put a bit of relief in the neck.

Great advice RSB,

Looks like I'll be taking out the shim then.

Thanks again guys for your advice. Bkeen: I'll adjust the neck to restore the bow.

[RockStringBender]

Hey, one more thing! Take a picture with your 4th hand as you fret the 1st and 14th and stick the credit card in the 6th with your 3rd hand!!!

Just a joke. Use some rubber tipped clamps on the 1st and 14th. I've tried this trick with my elbows and I looked like a monkey FN a football

[PacerMedic]

Why deck a Floyd? It was designed to be up there!
I rarely pull up on the bar, but I can if I want to and that thing will just look at you if it's set up right.

[mmmtacos]

I'm just lazy I guess. I got tired of all the tuning issues. I still have 2 Kramers set up for float tho. A F-1000 and a Baretta.

I do think a flush floyd has better tone

[RockStringBender]

I judge a guitar by barefoot tone and sustain, and the decked floyds do resonate better: but, I have noticed/observed that you give up a LOT of harmonics up and down the board when they are flush. After geeking on the great barefoot tone axes I plug it in and turn the gain up and they all have great tone....

[Mac]

mine came set up, the Bridge should float otherwise you get retension against the fine tuners as mentioned, in addition you run the risk of dinting the paintwork and as its not recessed, that ain't a good thing

If you go to the music yo site there's some info on how to get the height of each string above the fret to the specified level

if you want some help on setting up the floyd and neck properly there are 7 great tutorial videos on google.ca

search for "floyd rose set up"

[sumrnitz]

I've tried this trick with my elbows and I looked like a monkey FN a football

Get out of my head! ....Get out of my head! ....Get out of my head! ....

[Dustin]

mine came set up, the Bridge should float otherwise you get retension against the fine tuners as mentioned, in addition you run the risk of dinting the paintwork and as its not recessed, that ain't a good thing

If you go to the music yo site there's some info on how to get the height of each string above the fret to the specified level

if you want some help on setting up the floyd and neck properly there are 7 great tutorial videos on google.ca

search for "floyd rose set up"

Thanks for the heads up on the videos Mac. I got it pretty well setup now, and it plays great.

Thanks again guys for pointing me in the right direction

[nightwatch]

That's great to hear you figured it out. Once you learn how to set up a floyd they're pretty easy to do. My first guitar with a floyd years ago I made the mistake of taking all the strings off to change them. Through trial and error I figured it out after almost throwing the guitar out the window!

[PacerMedic]

That's great to hear you figured it out. Once you learn how to set up a floyd they're pretty easy to do. My first guitar with a floyd years ago I made the mistake of taking all the strings off to change them. Through trial and error I figured it out after almost throwing the guitar out the window!

I always take all the strings off for a complete change. All ya need to remember is to use a wedge to set the Floyd level while you string it and bring the strings to pitch. Easy as pie.

[nightwatch]

Yeah, I know that now But I didn't back then

[RockStringBender]

I pull mine and get everything cleaned up on about every other string change: pull them all for the in-betweens too. If you don't change your string gauge and such they pull right back to setup. It's still a good idea to plant that seed that Gail offered so that the next set doesn't get Dustin frustrated and wanting to throw the thing away. Even as short ago as last fall I was on a setup and it was one of those tedious back and forth, not the right night to do it and I just wanted to nail the thing down to the body and AHHHHHHHHHHHH!! 20 setups before and the 5 or 6 since and it's a piece of pie, easy as cake.... but that night? I coulda killed floyd rose

[Dustin]

I pull mine and get everything cleaned up on about every other string change: pull them all for the in-betweens too. If you don't change your string gauge and such they pull right back to setup. It's still a good idea to plant that seed that Gail offered so that the next set doesn't get Dustin frustrated and wanting to throw the thing away. Even as short ago as last fall I was on a setup and it was one of those tedious back and forth, not the right night to do it and I just wanted to nail the thing down to the body and AHHHHHHHHHHHH!! 20 setups before and the 5 or 6 since and it's a piece of pie, easy as cake.... but that night? I coulda killed floyd rose

I can relate

And wouldn't you know it, the darn thing is all outta whack again. I guess overnight everything settled, and now it's buzzing like a doorbell. Last night, I was looking everything over, searching for something I may have missed. I've yet to find anything that needs adjustment. I would like to deck it, but then it would dent the finish. So I've raised the action up just enough to keep things from buzzing. The strings are now so far off the board that it does take a bit of effort to sound the note. Another thing I find strange is that I have to place my fingers in the dead center of the fret. If I move my finger just a bit, it'll buzz.

I know there is somthing I've overlooking/not doing. I'm not going to stop until it's right, but throwing it out the window is looking more appealing all the time

I'll take some pictures looking down the neck. I'll also snap some of the floyd. Hopefully it's something simple I'm just not getting.

[RockStringBender]

if worst comes to worst it will cost 75-100 bucks to get it setup by a tech. you can ship it to me for that or less and i'll set it up for you.. free

[Dustin]

if worst comes to worst it will cost 75-100 bucks to get it setup by a tech. you can ship it to me for that or less and i'll set it up for you.. free

I appreciate the offer RSB, but I don't want to trouble you with it. I found a tech that does great work for reasonable rates. http://www.advancemusicvt.com/repairs

I'll let you guys know how it works out.
Thanks again

[Dustin]

Hey guys,

Picked up the JS from the tech today, but upon getting it home and playing it I didn't notice any improvement. I just got off the phone with the tech, and he told me some stuff to try. I followed his instructions to the T. Still no good. E and A strings buzz bad. Spent $60.00 for the procedure. I was wondering if I could send it to Yo for repairs. I don't think the neck was all that correct to begin with.

Doesn't Yo have a 2 year warranty on their guitars?

Appreciate any advice you guys may have. I've done everything to it, and so has the tech. There is just no gettin' it right it seems.

[PacerMedic]

Does it maybe have heavier strings than you're used to?

[Dustin]

It does have 10's on it. I prefer 9-42's, but he didn't consult me on which gauge string I wanted. I'm thinking that 8's might solve the issue.