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    Default Floyd Rose Nut Widths

    Sticky by request. Thanks to our very own RockStringBender for the info:
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    Originally Posted by RockStringBender View Post
    R1: narrow: Width: 1-9/16"; Height: .225"; Spacing: 1.30?; Radius: 10"

    R2: standard: Width: 1-5/8"; Height: .225"; Spacing: 1.37?; Radius: 10"

    R3: wide: (narrow string spacing for bound neck), Width: 1-11/16"; Height: .275"; Spacing: 1.40?; Radius: 10"

    R4: wide: (wide string spacing), Width: 1-11/16"; Height: .275"; Spacing: 1.43?; Radius: 10"

    R5: extra wide. Width: 1-3/4"; Height: .275"; Spacing: 1.50?; Radius: 10"

    R6: R1 with bullet nut relief. Width: 1-9/16"; Height: .225"; Spacing: 1.30?; Radius: 10"

    R7: R2 with bullet nut relief. Width: 1-5/8"; Height: .225"; Spacing: 1.37?; Radius: 10"

    R8: R4 with flatter radius. Width: 1-11/16"; Height: .225"; Spacing: 1.43?; Radius: 15"
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    That's some great info. I put it away for safe keeping, just in case.

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    So do both R3 and R4 nuts work on a 1 and 11/16" wide fretboard? Which of these has the standard Fender spacing?

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    yeap...neither... the difference is at the nut... not the bridge... hope that helped
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    Hm, guess i didn't really word my question right. Is it the r3 or r4 that more closely resembles the string spacing on a standard Fender nut?

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    this may be dumb ass question but what are the different sizes for? do they raise the strings? or space them different? or are can you put any nut on any guitar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstraub5150 View Post
    this may be dumb ass question but what are the different sizes for? do they raise the strings? or space them different? or are can you put any nut on any guitar?

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    all of the above are true. you can't put any nut on any guitar unless the neck is cut or shimmed for it . Fret height makes a difference too
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    the different nut sizes are mainly for the width of the neck you are putting it on
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    And the radius of course.

    Also, for the tiny rest of the world outside USA who use metric measures:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstraub5150 View Post
    this may be dumb ass question but what are the different sizes for? do they raise the strings? or space them different? or are can you put any nut on any guitar?

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    Standard Fender=1 5/8th"=R2
    Standard Gibson=1 11/16th=R3&R4

    R3 has R2 string spacing and is used with bound necks to avoid playing on the binding. You can basically put smaller nuts on if you want (as long as it's comfortable. An R5 neck with a R2 nut doesn't make sense). R5 neck can have a R4 nut, other way around does not work
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    ^ so does that mean that my Pacer Dlx with the claw neck is a R3 nut?
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    Yes, both mine are L3...(lefty )
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    Quote Originally Posted by pel666 View Post
    Standard Fender=1 5/8th"=R2
    Standard Gibson=1 11/16th=R3&R4

    R3 has R2 string spacing and is used with bound necks to avoid playing on the binding. You can basically put smaller nuts on if you want (as long as it's comfortable. An R5 neck with a R2 nut doesn't make sense). R5 neck can have a R4 nut, other way around does not work
    I know thats the Fender standard but I dont think Gibson has a standard because I've seen Les Pauls with R2 String spacing and R4
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    It's their most common neck width IIRC...back in the day. You can have thick Fenders as well
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    Anyone know what brand makes nuts that come fairly thin (have low action at the start of the fret board). I bought some no name top mount nut and it was high as hell. I just grinded it for a 2nd time and remounted it. Now the action is really nice, almost too low but I can correct that by slightly raising the bridge.

    I mean there must be a difference and quality and performance from one brand to another even with just a nut right?

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    Very informative thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtsalmela80 View Post
    Anyone know what brand makes nuts that come fairly thin (have low action at the start of the fret board). I bought some no name top mount nut and it was high as hell. I just grinded it for a 2nd time and remounted it. Now the action is really nice, almost too low but I can correct that by slightly raising the bridge.

    I mean there must be a difference and quality and performance from one brand to another even with just a nut right?

    Most of the noname stuff is junk, or close to it. Cheap soft steel, not flat, ect. Gotoh makes a top mount nut that is fairly low profile, one of the lowest I have seen. They also include shims with the nut.

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    I read the thread but I'm still confused...If I have a neck that is 1 11/16 at the nut do I use a R2 nut or R4 or maybe even an R3? I like low action, however it would appear that the R2 is a bit short by approximately .0625. It that how it should be?
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    hi chris (and others), i acquired a reissued baretta with top mount nut. the nut that came with it is a bit thin (R2)... i had to shim it in order to play without buzzing the first fret. the seller must have messed with it (meaning the nut is not original; also the hardware is black except the chrome nut; i swapped it with a black r2 nut, but it's still too thin). where can i get a taller top mount nut that won't need a shim? what's the measurement i should be looking at?

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    hey all. my question is. if you have an OFR.(or any floyd system).will that be compatable with any nut size? as long as you have the correct nut for your neck?
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    i believe so. lock nut must match the width of the neck where headstock meets. that's what matters. otherwise it wouldn't play right; the strings will either be too close together or too far apart. otherwise you will have something like this (nut is too small for the neck):

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    There's width, and there's height....

    Bottom line, the R1-5 widths above mentioned by Chris are correct...if you choose to you can scale one size down (R5 to R4/R3, R4/R3 to R2 etc.) if you feel more comfortable with that.

    Height, yes I think I mentioned this before...none of my 'new' nuts fit the old Kramers...they are just too high. So I managed to get a few lower ones from the forum bros right here This is a real problem for me, I wish Floyd Rose still made them old specs nuts...but I guess we have to live with shaping of new Nuts or shimming the old ones if needed
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    that's right... how can i not think about the height?! especially when recently i had a problem with the nut height of my reissue! yes. width and height.

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    Default great info

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    Default I have tried to follow, But?

    If I have a kramer neck set up for an r5 nut width wgich I believe is 1 3/4. What floyd can I put with it? R? if I want to try to get on off ebay etc... I have not sen any that specifiy OFR r5, only r3 and r2. Thanks sorry if I am slow

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