Screamin Demon in kramers.

[LynchMobShredder]

hey guys....do any of you have a screamin demon in your kramer? how do you think one will sound in a focus 1000?

[jumbowolfe]

I think Sandy says they sound great in Alder, but I've never tried one in Alder. I know the pickup was designed for a maple bodied guitar, it has low end growl, and not a ton of high end because of being designed to balance out a bright maple body. It may/may not sound good, just depends on the wood type of your Focus.

Mike

[unchained1984]

Well the demon I dropped into a project was well used , got it from a dude in South Carolina & I expected it to have mellowed a little with age but nope not a bit of it , it's literally bursting with tone- squeels pinch harmonics just like you'd want it to. But like Remy pointed out a while back the only downside we've found is that it needs the volume pulling out a little further on your amp/head. Bottom line yep in alder it works a whole lot better than I expected.

Sandy

[ElKaBong]

I thought it was way too bright in my alder focus.I ened up useing it in the neck on my maple focus and it sounds really good.
Everything I've read about it says it's high on the treble side and I have to agree.Check out this link.

http://guitarelectronics.zoovy.com/product/SH12

The duncan site also has a tone chart that shows the same thing.

[Riscchip]

This is my all time favorite pickup, and I use it in almost all of my humbucker guitars. I find it to be a very balanced, punchy, medium / low output pickup that compliments pretty much any guitar I put it in. It has a great clarity and dynamics. I don't find it overly bright at all, myself...I think it resists compressing somewhat, so if you are running with a darker, more compressed sound, it still has a lot of clarity on the highs.

Side note...I also have a few custom made pickups...a Wolfetone that is a screamin demon clone with regular pole pieces and a cover, and a Duncan custom shop pickup that is a screamin' demon with standard "slug" coils. Cool stuff. :headbang

[spade2you]

My brother had one in an alder guitar and it sounded very bad. Plus the output was too high compared to the rest of the pickups and much louder than his other guitars.

[unchained1984]

That's a strange one Spade , a couple of us certainly found it to be the other way round, Seymour themselves describe it as being a moderate output pup.

Sandy

[IownaSC3]

I have one in my Hologrid baretta and it really does not impress me. For what thats worth. To me it is to bassey sounding. Just to lazy to take it out :D

Jerry

[G.A.S. Ackward]

I have one in my Fender Telecaster Ultra at the bridge, which I believe is ash, and I personally really dig it in that guitar.

Not a very high output pick up, but lots of harmonics, and cleans up nicely.

Really worked out good in that particular guitar, but not sure if I would drop one in a Kramer.

Just my 2 cents :)

[spade2you]

That's a strange one Spade , a couple of us certainly found it to be the other way round, Seymour themselves describe it as being a moderate output pup.

Sandy

It was being used against 2 singles. I know that there's a volume difference, but it was even worse. I almost suspect some kind of wiring error because it sounded THAT bad. That's why I stick with the JB as much as possible.

[atomicholiday]

I've got one in a Ripley mutt I put together a few years ago. I love the sound of it thru a 5150 but plugged into a Mesa StudioPre it's a little to dark for my taste. I can't get enough high end out of it thru that amp. It seems to need alot of gain to really get screamin'.

[unchained1984]

Another point well worth remembering is this -although the ESP Lynch signature series features maple in the Kamikaze body, the Skulls & Snakes model features an alder body with rosewood board - both models obviously have the demon in the bridge position.

Sandy

[LynchMobShredder]

thanx for all the repys guys....i think im ganna give one a shot. :headbang

[unchained1984]

Good man, as a Lynch fan I'm sure you'll love the tone. Next to Ed my faves are Lynch & Randy , it's a very open expressive pup that is insane where harmonics are concerned, just up the volume on your head :thumbsup

Sandy

[stevied]

I had one in a focus 6000....liked it alot....pull back the vol pot...cleans up nicely....but you do have to go full on for the nice harmonics to squeal (pinched) IMO...stevied. p.s. Sounds great through an ADA pre-amp. :bong :drool

[jumbowolfe]

Sounds like most of you guys are having to gain up in order to get it to squeel. Thats what I was saying about it going in maple for it to sound balanced all the time at any setting, that pickup really needs to be buried in some maple.

Mike

[unchained1984]

I think it's open to interpretation regards what your hearing but certainly in the case of both my f6000 bengal & Remy with his retta we seemed to be hearing the same results , namely the balance was great (nice open tone with harmonics second to none) just that with it being a lower output pup than we're used too it needs a little more volume on the amp head. I'd still like to compare side by side with maple though & if a certain body would show up I could compare ;)

Sandy

[kdude]

i have a 98 esp kamiaze with screamin demon pickup and i hate the tone of it. but i like the feel of the body, and the neck is killer. [scott]

[KramerAmsterdam]

I took mine out of my Baretta, mapole neck. It did sound great, but I restored it with an original JBJ )or JBE' zebra for looks. It sounds good too now, not as distinctive anymore as before with the Demon. I am tempted to put it back in/normally I sell my spare pickups..this one I keep though.

Remy

[Lightningdan]

I always wanted to try one, but I think now I'll wait 'till I build a maple Warmoth. I want to try a maple strat single humbucker body, maple neck, and Demon pickup.

[KramerAmsterdam]

My Baretta was great sounding as it was, I think alder body, maple/maple neck.


Try it out, they even make them custom so they look like JB's,. that, might be the option for me though. But..$$$


Remy

[adoxtater]

Well, I have one in my Motley Crue Baretta if anyone is interested in trading for a JB (black, zebra, logo/no logo, doesn't matter). It's getting ready to go to Mean Street Customs for some work so if you're interested let me know ASAP before I pack it up LOL.

[TURBOBLUES]

Another point well worth remembering is this -although the ESP Lynch signature series features maple in the Kamikaze body, the Skulls & Snakes model features an alder body with rosewood board - both models obviously have the demon in the bridge position.

SandyI have an ESP "skulls & snakes" and I hated the sound : too much treble. Although it has great harmonics it has no balls. I tried it with different amps, same conclusion. I replaced it with a JB and it sounds a lot better. A year or two ago I put the demon in a Fender Strat, just to give it another try, and again I took it out. It is not for me, definitely not!

[jumbowolfe]

If you understand George's tone, thats fitting for his pickup. George kind of stuck to the old school vibe of brown sound whereas Eddie went to hotter pickups over the years. I think George gains his amp up over the guitar, and lets the guitar just kind of let out its natural tone insted of gaining it from there. I'm assuming, but it makes sense for his attack on the guitar.

I will say though, that pickup is just a whole different animal in maple. It sounded balsey in a maple bodied guitar i had. I have a recording somewhere of me using it.

Mike

[85voyager]

i have an 85 imperial (light body - don't know what type of wood).

this pickup is awesome. it has a very full sound with great clarity in overdrive. it has a singing lead sound and nice clean tone. it is not as hot as a jb, but that's ok, as it sounds great in this guitar. it is very responsive to your playing.

[Lynch]

Heh, it's always been my oppinion... and it's apparently correct given the responses here, that the SD is an aquired taste. You either hate it or you don't.

I've tried it in a few bodies. Never liked it. Other guys I know have pretty much tossed their JB's for it.

So, if you're thinking about it... I'd advise trying one out if at all possible. It's not for everyone... but if it's you're thing, you won't be dissapointed. (unfortunatly, I was). :D

[KramerTamer]

If you understand George's tone, thats fitting for his pickup. George kind of stuck to the old school vibe of brown sound whereas Eddie went to hotter pickups over the years. I think George gains his amp up over the guitar, and lets the guitar just kind of let out its natural tone insted of gaining it from there. I'm assuming, but it makes sense for his attack on the guitar.

I will say though, that pickup is just a whole different animal in maple. It sounded balsey in a maple bodied guitar i had. I have a recording somewhere of me using it.

Mike

Ive been reading this and have a question related to what mike is saying about George Lynch. I'm deciding on pickups for a pacer custom I body, think it's 89 scalloped lower horn so if that helps with wood used, I don't know. I assume alder. I know George plays a single slant baretta style pickup so what I want is the pickup he uses for my humbucker. I love his tone on Dokkens "under lock and key" It's the exact sound I want. Even though I'm using the wrong setup, I think I can get close when switching off the two singles. Do you know what he uses? And also I have the original singles I might replace too. Any sugestions there are appreciated too!!,.............

[KramerTamer]

Never mind on that last question, I just found his setup online. If anyone knows his effects order and boxes that would be cool though too. I have an idea but any info would be cool.