Custom Pepsi Baretta Special for German Promotion

[Pacerimperial]

Kramer just posted this on their Facebook page. I kinda like it. :thumbsup I think it would look better with an all black truss rod cover, but that is just my preference. Looks very nice to me.

Just thought I would post it for those without Facebook.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1491468/Pepsi%20Kramer.jpg

[amerturk]

I find it odd that we (the Kramer diehards) know little to nothing about these new ventures nor did we even know about the VT200 coming back.

[bongano]

I find it odd that we (the Kramer diehards) know little to nothing about these new ventures nor did we even know about the VT200 coming back.

We're not their actual target.

[sixstring]

Besides, there will be someone on here that will bash whatever they come out with. :D

[skydive69]

I find it odd that we (the Kramer diehards) know little to nothing about these new ventures nor did we even know about the VT200 coming back.

maybe because kramer/gibson has the idea that there are just a bunch of tire kickers and people who are going to whine about anything they do no matter what. they arent building what people here think they should build to cater to what the kramer forum thinks they want......

just my opinion though......

[Blitz]

I like it. If its a promotion for Pepsi it could really help get the name out there.
Who did the paint job?

[bongano]

Let's say instead that Vintage Kramer and today Kramer are two different brands. Different guitars, different feelings, different mood, different way to relate to market and to players.
So, no surprise at all they are prefering other targets rather than old nostalgic Kramer krackheads.

[Rick S]

All you have to do is 'friend' Kramer on Facebook to get the latest buzz. Like most guitar related stuff you will find the latest on Facebook before it ever makes to whoevers actual websites.


I find it odd that we (the Kramer diehards) know little to nothing about these new ventures nor did we even know about the VT200 coming back.

[NightRider]

It would have been better if it was BEER instead of Pepsi:)

[80sKramer]

looks very good! If the headstock was white and maple board it would be even killer! Love Pepsi

[VooDoo666]

All you have to do is 'friend' Kramer on Facebook to get the latest buzz. Like most guitar related stuff you will find the latest on Facebook before it ever makes to whoevers actual websites.

Hit us up! Right you are Rick....
As to the VT200 coming back..there's a post on here under Baretta Special that sums it up..VT is the Baretta Special.

[VooDoo666]

It would have been better if it was BEER instead of Pepsi:)

Working on that!

[VooDoo666]

I like it. If its a promotion for Pepsi it could really help get the name out there.
Who did the paint job?

It's a decal under the clear coat designed by Pepsi....150 of them throughout Germany, Scandanavia and Austria for contests, displays, etc..ads on the transit systems.
It's going to be a ton of visibility and a great partner. Should start seeing some of it out there by month's end. The promo is going on throughout summer.

[NightRider]

Working on that!

Sweet Kevin:thumbsup

[Blitz]

It's a decal under the clear coat designed by Pepsi....150 of them throughout Germany, Scandanavia and Austria for contests, displays, etc..ads on the transit systems.
It's going to be a ton of visibility and a great partner. Should start seeing some of it out there by month's end. The promo is going on throughout summer.

Might be a decal but still looks great. Maybe a decal is a good idea for an optional finish on the budget to midrange guitars. Its cheaper to produce than a paint job and still looks good, the paint can be left for the high end market. Just a thought

[Mik Crone]

Hi Guys / Girls

I have spoken to Kramer on facebook chat and I feel that they have the fans in mind now. The 84 reissue due out in June has a seymour duncan JB and an original floyd rose higher spec than the music yo ones and not as expensive. Every company moves on. The new charvels are fender, b.c.rich are made in different far east factories, Ibanes are made in the cort factory as well. I have a focus 1000 87 model and it's great but i'm excited for the new vintage reissue too. Add kramer on facebook they respond to questions.
:strat

[Rick S]

Huh?:scratchhe And welcome.:thumbsup


The 84 reissue due out in June has a seymour duncan JB and an original floyd rose higher spec than the music yo ones and not as expensive.

[Mik Crone]

Huh?:scratchhe And welcome.:thumbsup

Hi Rick and hello everyone

I'm new here so if I am not making sense or posting in the wrong discussion sorry. Yes Kramer told me on facebook chat in june they are releasing the vintage Reissue series that includes the stagemaster with emgs and floyd, the tigerstripe pacer classic and the 84 model with duncan humbucker coil tap and floyd all with original logos. I think this is because the pacer classic is the second biggest selling of the new kramers.
Rock on

[KramerUK]

Kevin beat me to it, had to be a decal when the edges were faded in ;)

Either way, Kramer/Gibson have to look at a wider demographic to make sales and to make sure they balance the books and make a profit and if that means releasing more info on FB then so be it.
As Vinny says 9and I have been guilty of it in the past) there are too many tyre kickers on here with too much negative shit to say.

They need to sell guitars pure and simple, as far as I'm concerned we are getting the Stagey back, and hell you can have EMG's from the factory.

So what if they are made in Korea, your beloved 80's Stageys were build in Japan not the US!!!
So the VT-200 never materialised shit happens, now we have the 'retta Special coming which is in fact an Improvement on VT because the body shape and headstock are the same as the 'retta, they weren't on the VT.

Looks great Kevin keep up the good work building the brand :thumbsup

[amerturk]

Facebook? Don't have it. I use this place instead.

[Rick S]

Yeah, I hear ya. But imo Facebook is more than just dopey chit chat bs. The latest news in most anything seems to be there way before most anywhere else. I've noticed this with alot of my work related stuff and of course guitar stuff to. Almost makes me wonder why a company would even have a website anymore.


Facebook? Don't have it. I use this place instead.

[sixstring]

FB has turned into another form of media advertising, unfortunately.
Just another place for companies to sell their stuff.

[KramerBassFan]

Let's say instead that Vintage Kramer and today Kramer are two different brands. Different guitars, different feelings, different mood, different way to relate to market and to players.
So, no surprise at all they are prefering other targets rather than old nostalgic Kramer krackheads.

Not to be rude, but most Nostalgic Kramer Krackheads don't buy much even when Kramer does reissue stuff.... its all talks of how the originals are better, etc... or the knobs are different ;)

[halo71]

^ You hitching a ride on the Vin wagon? :poke:whistle

[goldsparkletop]

Hi Rick and hello everyone

I'm new here so if I am not making sense or posting in the wrong discussion sorry.
Rock on

I believe you got the curious response that you did because of this statement in your original post:

"The 84 reissue due out in June has a seymour duncan JB and an original floyd rose higher spec than the music yo ones..."

The MusicYO 1984's used the German made Original Floyd Rose, while the new reissue will use the Korean made OFR1000. The Korean model is IMO a very good unit, perhaps as good as the German version...but I don't think anyone would consider it "higher spec" than the original German version.

[KramerBassFan]

^ You hitching a ride on the Vin wagon? :poke:whistle

You sure it isn't the other way round'? :lol;)

[skydive69]

^ You hitching a ride on the Vin wagon? :poke:whistle

:happy1 ........that coming from one of the biggest tire kickers here, my response isnt really even needed........:poke:whistle

[mmmtacos]

I believe you got the curious response that you did because of this statement in your original post:

"The 84 reissue due out in June has a seymour duncan JB and an original floyd rose higher spec than the music yo ones..."

The MusicYO 1984's used the German made Original Floyd Rose, while the new reissue will use the Korean made OFR1000. The Korean model is IMO a very good unit, perhaps as good as the German version...but I don't think anyone would consider it "higher spec" than the original German version.

And most of the 84's wood parts were asian to start with were they not?

Only real difference I see in the new 84 is maple as a body wood and the Korean floyd. I can't recall if the tuners on the new ones will be schaller But I would guess not.

Paint jobs look cool though
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[mmmtacos]

BTW how does a JB sound in maple?

[99 In The Shade]

I'd like to have one :drool
Hope there is a raffle to win one when they're around :vee
It's a good collabaration and PR to come back into people's minds

[bongano]

BTW how does a JB sound in maple?

Well, it's the classic sound of a vintage Baretta.

[NightRider]

I believe the majority of the maple Barettas came with Schallers

[halo71]

:happy1 ........that coming from one of the biggest tire kickers here, my response isnt really even needed........:poke:whistle

You totally missed what I was getting at. But that's okay. Had not a thang to do with any tires. :D

[KramerBassFan]

Do elaborate then? :D

[halo71]

Do elaborate then? :D

I was referring to Vin's negativity when anytime someone asks about Gibson or whomever doing something custom. Kinda how everyone talks about it but doesn't want pay more than $200 for it blah blah blah. Or when someone asks if an axe is ALL original etc. No harm meant. Didn't know it was a sore spot. :thumbsup

It's okay, at least you don't have the goat fetish thing. ;)

[navajo warrior]

I believe the majority of the maple Barettas came with Schallers

i got 5 klien barettas ... all pointy headstock and some into the "F - 8000" range and they are all maple body ... so thats well into the seymour duncan era

cheers
mick

[NightRider]

Thats why i said Majority:):toast... all my Klines are to light to be maple... except for maybe Eddie.... but thats an 85

[kramerman65]

IMO this is another step in the right direction. They gotta get interest sparked to the masses of players today, once they do that the gates will open again.
A lot is being done thats very positive and I for one applaud them for doing it, if they don't then Kramer dies. We'd all love to see the quality instrument we cherish with a good reputation again. Patience is a bitch.

[Mik Crone]

I believe it's the return fully. They told me today that the 84 will be available in plain red too. The new Models and the reissues. yep. Charvel have done the same thing with the asian san dimas models under Fender. I think if you are over 30 these guitars have a special place in your heart. Choice is what's important. evolution but maintaining the root.

[bongano]

i got 5 klien barettas ... all pointy headstock and some into the "F - 8000" range and they are all maple body ... so thats well into the seymour duncan era

cheers
mick

Also my rettas have maple + JBJ

[G.A.S. Ackward]

Kramer just posted this on their Facebook page. I kinda like it. :thumbsup I think it would look better with an all black truss rod cover, but that is just my preference. Looks very nice to me.

Just thought I would post it for those without Facebook.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1491468/Pepsi%20Kramer.jpg

I'm surprised it doesn't have a Floyd?

[VooDoo666]

I'm surprised it doesn't have a Floyd?

If you'll read up above, this is the Baretta Special, it's the entry level version of the Baretta. upper end models are in works.

[G.A.S. Ackward]

If you'll read up above, this is the Baretta Special, it's the entry level version of the Baretta. upper end models are in works.

Oops, my bad:whistle

Great looking Baretta:thumbsup

[smock19nathan]

is their an 84 reissue reissue comeing? if true i will flip:jump

[goldsparkletop]

YES!!!

Note that some of the spec's are different, particularly the maple body.

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45981

[smock19nathan]

YES!!!

Note that some of the spec's are different, particularly the maple body.

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45981



Good ! usa made?

[goldsparkletop]

No. Korean.

[ullathorne]

Hummmm I work for Pepsico :whistle:idea