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halo71

12-04-2010, 09:14 AM

dan

12-04-2010, 09:29 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-fbC5Y8oBY
this is my kinda stuff and lynch too:thumbsup

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 09:33 AM

Rick S

12-04-2010, 09:36 AM

I'm all over the place. I'm steering more towards old school overdrive lately.

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ferengi-bri

12-04-2010, 10:19 AM

I am digging the tone of my 18 watt Marshall cone these days! So, I'd say my own sound right now!

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 10:30 AM

And let's not forget.....
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:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1:happy1

Sorry Jim!

kg4wih

12-04-2010, 10:51 AM

Right now, I'm liking Brian Haner jr's tone.
Flame on.

Rick S

12-04-2010, 10:52 AM

I want to build one someday soon.:thumbsup Some clips would be nice. :)

I am digging the tone of my 18 watt Marshall cone these days! So, I'd say my own sound right now!

moku

12-04-2010, 12:09 PM

all of these sound great... keep'em coming! :headbang
schenker's tone is pretty awesome.... but the beginning sounds like a mockup :funny

pointyheadstock

12-04-2010, 01:29 PM

I really enjoy the classic rock tones

scott gorham/brian robertson of classic thin lizzy.

oh and I really like tom scholz tone as well

Rick S

12-04-2010, 04:01 PM

Yup!:thumbsup I remember hearing that when I was 9 or 10 and just loved it. Still do.:)

oh and I really like tom scholz tone as well

kb7010

12-04-2010, 04:30 PM

I'd say my own sound right now!

that sums me up also...

after years and years and years I am finally happy with my tone I get now.. a simple JCM-800 2205 or a JCM-900 Hi Gain ...

moku

12-04-2010, 04:33 PM

maybe when we post we can just embed a video sample? this would give the viewers instant gratification :D of seeing the youtube video of what you mean by tone?

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moku

12-04-2010, 04:35 PM

that sums me up also...

after years and years and years I am finally happy with my tone I get now.. a simple JCM-800 2205 or a JCM-900 Hi Gain ...

i'm sure it sums it up, but i would love to learn more. ferengi-bri: care to post a sound clip of your tone?
otherwise, your comment is... :scratchhe

moku

12-04-2010, 04:45 PM

I like Steve Morse lately.

nice.... had to look him up.

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moku

12-04-2010, 04:47 PM

Hendrix's Purple haze

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moku

12-04-2010, 04:52 PM

I'm a huge Lynch fan myself and love anything Jake E. Lee did, especially Badlands stuff :thumbsup

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Holzar88

12-04-2010, 04:57 PM

I think my favorite tones are, in relative order:

1. Richie Sambora's GIGANTIC rhythm crunch on Bon Jovi's New Jersey (which I think came via a Soldano SLO).

2. My ADA boys: Nuno on Pornograffiti; the two guitarists from Skid Row on their debut; Vitto Bratta on White Lion's first album.

3. And, don't laugh, lately I've been seriously digging Al Pitrelli's stuff with Trans-Siberian Orchestra. His lead tone is searing, warm and fat.

4. Andy Taylor (of Duran Duran fame) on his solo album Thunder and his work on the American Anthem soundtrack ("Take It Easy").

5. Paul Gilbert. He's got his thin and slightly nasily moments, tone-wise, but I really love his rhythm tone (Check out "Technical Difficulties" with Racer X).

6. All things Brian May. He's probably the one single coil guy whose tone manages to enthrall me (OK, Eric Johnson's no slouch, either). Love that hot, crunchy Vox AC 30 thing he coaxes out.

7. Last, but certainly not least, Lynch's Dokken days, specifically Under Lock and Key and "In My Dreams."

8. OK. One more: Gotta say I've been listening to a lot of Judas Priest's way overproduced Turbo album of late ... and I love it the tone KK Downing and Glen Tipton get there as well.

For me, I don't think I'm about all-out gain as much as I am that addictive Marshall-style crunch. The Mesa tone, in general, doesn't do much for me.

Rick S

12-04-2010, 05:15 PM

I was thinking more like this.:thumbsup
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maybe when we post we can just embed a video sample? this would give the viewers instant gratification :D of seeing the youtube video of what you mean by tone?

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moku

12-04-2010, 05:16 PM

Right now, I'm liking Brian Haner jr's tone.
Flame on.

had to look him up:
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Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 05:48 PM

Oh! :yikes
How could I forget NUNO and Paul Gilbert!!!!

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 05:55 PM

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 06:01 PM

Maybe..... no this IS my all time favorite:thumbsup<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/neX0FPHqwtU?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/neX0FPHqwtU?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 06:02 PM

Not the best youtube of it, I'll look foe another. KILLER CD though!!!!!!!

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 06:04 PM

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 06:14 PM

Ok, while looking for Badlands stuff I came across this.
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Vej

12-04-2010, 06:33 PM

This:
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Joe doesn't start with the guitar until about the 2 minute mark.

Yourworstnightmare

12-04-2010, 07:01 PM

Man Vej that was a good one, reminds me of Warren
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Rick S

12-05-2010, 08:14 AM

My favorite Gilbert is his latest 'Fuzz Universe' CD.:thumbsup

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moku

12-05-2010, 10:00 AM

damn, that fuzz universe pedal sounds amazing... just checked and ebay doesn't have it :banghead i'll be keepin my eye on getting one of those...

thanks, rick!

BamaKramer

12-05-2010, 10:25 AM

wow, that pedal does sound really good.

moku

12-05-2010, 10:31 AM

damn, it's close to $400! :banghead

sixstring

12-05-2010, 10:46 AM

very kool stomp box....

Rick S

12-05-2010, 10:48 AM

More like $280. Still a little spendy but not outragous.:thumbsup

http://www.majikboxusa.com/pedals.html#f

moku

12-05-2010, 11:03 AM

could have sworn i saw a link that had three something... maybe retail price?

$280... hopefully someone will sell it on ebay and i can give it a try (for less)....

bongano

12-05-2010, 11:13 AM

Gilbert is a nice guy but that guitar is awful!

Yourworstnightmare

12-05-2010, 11:23 AM

could have sworn i saw a link that had three something... maybe retail price?

$280... hopefully someone will sell it on ebay and i can give it a try (for less)....
Sounds a little like Jake E Lee
I had to have an ADA and got a deal on a new one back in 1991 for about $700 with the foot pedal, so I guess that's not bad??? I don't even want to talk about Mesa's prices, the only way I can do them is used but they hold up!!!

sixstring

12-05-2010, 11:24 AM

what is the make? is it his sig guitar?

moku

12-05-2010, 11:48 AM

what is the make? is it his sig guitar?

i think it's an old ibanez? the name is "firebird" (?) or something fire?? :scratchhe

pointyheadstock

12-05-2010, 12:16 PM

I love his approach and damn he can pick.

nice array of marshalls as well.:thumbsup

Vej

12-05-2010, 12:33 PM

i think it's an old ibanez? the name is "firebird" (?) or something fire?? :scratchhe

Actually it is a guitar he designed in photoshop and had Ibanez build for him a few years ago. It's a reversed modified shape based on the old Iceman. I think they did make it his sig model. They call it the "Fireman".

Rick S

12-05-2010, 12:38 PM

I like it!:thumbsup

Gilbert is a nice guy but that guitar is awful!

bongano

12-05-2010, 01:02 PM

i think it's an old ibanez? the name is "firebird" (?) or something fire?? :scratchhe

It's the Ibanez Paul Gilbert Sig. Actually a reverse Iceman? :-x

moku

12-05-2010, 01:08 PM

Rick S

12-05-2010, 03:20 PM

It's called a Fireman.:thumbsup

It's the Ibanez Paul Gilbert Sig. Actually a reverse Iceman? :-x

I haven't played through a Valvestate but I find it hard to believe there isn't a good tone somewhere in that amp. I'm sure the all-knowing amp guys will tell you different but I have found good tones in every amp I've played.:) Thats not saying I've found the tone I want in every amp. No.:nono But if you do like Gilbert does with that pedal I think you should get close to that tone. It's a balance with light gain on the amp and more gain with the pedal. Or if you have a nice OD pedal you could use that with the cleanest setting on your amp then kick it up with the Fuzz. The options are almost endless.

dumb question (cuz i know what you guys will say :D)... but is it ever possible to get a good tone sound out of a valvestate for home playing? is it possible to get an approximate sound at least? what kind of pedals or combinations do i need to make that happen?

context:
to me, my marshall valvestate 2000 head (and 1960marshall cab) on overdrive 2 gets a good sound--i'm sure it'll sound different if i were to blast it very loud--but it still feels like the sound is compressed. it's missing something... that's why i was intrigued by the fuzz universe.

AlanH

12-07-2010, 03:53 PM

Check out this thrash tone by Megadeth kicking in from 1:14 after the intro (which is also cool). It sounds amazing in the car cranked up:

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I also really like Angus' tone, especially on this track:

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Alan

errbt

12-07-2010, 04:53 PM

Pretty much anything by EVH over the years, regardless of his changing rig, but above all this:

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Anything by David Gilmour and The Pink Floyd, but this in particular - massive, perfect wall of sound:

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Honorable mentions: The Edge's tone throughout the years, but especially from 1980 to '87

Jerry Cantrell's tone, especially on Jar of Flies

espvh

12-17-2010, 11:49 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UH4GGgkXHc

pointyheadstock

12-17-2010, 12:51 PM

dumb question (cuz i know what you guys will say :D)... but is it ever possible to get a good tone sound out of a valvestate for home playing? is it possible to get an approximate sound at least? what kind of pedals or combinations do i need to make that happen?

context:
to me, my marshall valvestate 2000 head (and 1960marshall cab) on overdrive 2 gets a good sound--i'm sure it'll sound different if i were to blast it very loud--but it still feels like the sound is compressed. it's missing something... that's why i was intrigued by the fuzz universe.

well, dont know it this will help but you can try knocking back the treble a little tiny bit, and lowering the gain on the amp and push it with a pedal.

It seems to work well with SS amplifiers. and you have to remember, if its a marshall, it will sound like like one because they are certainly not going to model any other companys tone right?

I like all marshall amps. Ive had an 800,900, mosfet, valvestate, even that big power amp and the mosfet and that valvestate sounded just as good as the tube heads.. but its personal preference really;)

pel666

12-17-2010, 03:54 PM

My fave tone...might sound cocky, but it's my own :thumbsup

Shredder1500

12-17-2010, 05:29 PM

deffinatly john syke's tone on the whitesnake 1987 album

kramer.geetar

12-17-2010, 07:52 PM

YESYESYESYES!! Gilmour and EVH all the way! :thumbsup

brokrguy

12-17-2010, 09:21 PM

My fave tone...might sound cocky, but it's my own :thumbsup

WOW that sounds cocky! :D

I don't know if I can lock in on ONE favorite - the VH1 "brown sound", early AC/DC "straight-to-a-Marshall", Gilmore's "moaning Strat" tones, Townsend's SG Special, dirty ZZ Top, Keef's fuzzy Fender riffs, Lindsey Buckingham's weird guitar and playing style, Jimmy Page's chunky LP...I even dig Jack White's super-distorted POS guitars...I guess it's just like potato chips...I can't have just one.

ALTHOUGH...if we go with one sound, not one person, I guess I could say I like the older-school "dirtier" rock tones - analog, more "live" sounding, slightly fuzzy to kinda dirty without being completely distorted like the heaviest metal. As much as we all love gear and tone-tweaking toys, some of the best seem to come from instrument -> amp layouts without a lot between or in addition to...

literary

12-17-2010, 11:31 PM

I suggest placing an eq pedal somewhere in the chain and experiment.

I also have a fender super champ xd. That's a hybrid amp--with programmed voicings and also tubes.

The sound of the flextone doesn't have the little nuances of a tube amp and doesn't sound as forceful, and I would say lacks some clarity compared to a tube amp. However, I can get some kick ass sounds out of it and it does sound comparatively warm.

errbt

12-21-2010, 01:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UH4GGgkXHc

Yep, Black and Blue has the nastiest, raunchiest, sickest variant of the EVH tone. It sounds amazing...OU812 was overall an uneven record that lacked much new spark from EVH, IMO, but that tone on Black and Blue (and Sucker in a Three Piece - particularly that kickass intro) is mind blowing! :bananahea :notworthy

richiep

12-22-2010, 07:28 AM

I think for me it would have to be EVH's tone on VH1 (also love his tone on Fair Warning in particular), along with Nuno's ADA MP1 on Pornograffiti and also that on the first side of III Sides to Every Story (the lead sounds especially on Warheads and Rest in Peace, done with a small Gallien Krueger if I remember rightly, while the rhythm tone was a Soldano SLO). Jake's tone on Voodoo Highway by Badlands is right up there, as is every tone George Lynch gets on Wicked Sensation. Also, John Petrucci's tones on Metropolis Part II: Scenes from a Memory (Mesa Mark IIC+).

moku

01-15-2011, 09:03 PM

nice casey. :thumbsup

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JerryO

01-15-2011, 10:31 PM

I really like Guthrie Govan's tone on anything he plays!! He is a monster. I also like Jimmy Herring's tone. Very advanced and subtle.

dan

01-15-2011, 11:06 PM

you guys should check out geranium boys stomp boxes blues seracino's dad makes them.go to blue's site:thumbsup

rjs1

01-15-2011, 11:13 PM

anything Jerry Cantrell

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JGB

01-17-2011, 05:53 PM

This is the tone I've been striving for lately...Aldrich kills.

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Lil-Guitars

01-17-2011, 06:03 PM

Pacer Guy

01-17-2011, 06:09 PM

This is a tone that I really like :headbang and actually attainable :thumbsup Mp1... Delay... Microcab into PC :thumbsup
There is also a forum bro that has a tasty tone as well... but he's kinda shy with his music :)

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geetar10

01-17-2011, 11:14 PM

This is a tone that I really like :headbang and actually attainable :thumbsup Mp1... Delay... Microcab into PC :thumbsup
There is also a forum bro that has a tasty tone as well... but he's kinda shy with his music :)

hey, thanks! that patch is straight up w/ a Kami III on the neck pup?? DZ. :alien

You're gonna make me wanna play/record again you silly goose...

Glad to have you back, Don! :toast

moku

01-17-2011, 11:35 PM

keep 'em coming guys. :thumbsup

_xxx_

01-18-2011, 02:18 AM

My faves are Randy's tone on "Tribute", Vai in "For the love of god" and Yngwie's first two records.

One piece of advice when searching for a great tone: less is more. It should sound good for the mix, not for your ears when playing alone. That's totally different. Most guys I know would hate the sound actually used by our "idols" due to it being too "weak" and missing that over-the-top distortion and excessive bass/highs.

Mac

01-18-2011, 02:40 AM

Serj I know your pretty good at getting a decent tone, and i know for a large part you play shall we say a "heavier" genre of rock :D Any chance you could throw up a fat lead tone for some 80's rock? Maybe in a youtube video of your gear and settings?

_xxx_

01-18-2011, 09:37 AM

Well I surely could, but what I think is good might as well totally suck for the next guy :)

Here's an older example (nevermind my bad "singing", it's jut a pilot track :)):

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That's 80's Mesa sound of sorts. You could not stand it longer than five minutes when playing alone at home, the highs and mids feel razor sharp and that "chugga chugga" thump won't work at all. But as you can see, it sounds great in the mix.

Basically it's easy to get a good sound, let's just compare it to a "kewl metal kidz" settings (order: gain, bass, mids, highs, recti as an example):

koolkidz: 10, 9, 1, 8, result: mighty sound when playing alone but total crap for the band/mix since the guitar will not really cut through but it will kill the bass and drums thoroughly

me: 5,6,5,7, result: playing alone not much fun since it sounds too much in-your-face and thin in bass area, but it will be killer live/in the studio.

Just take away the bass until the sound STOPS thumping and it starts sounding as if it lacks bass. Then give it lots of mids and fairly lots of highs and reduce the gain till it starts sounding just a bit too weak. That way your guitar will cut through every mix and combined with a band it'll sound huge.

It's a bit different with Marshalls and some others, depending on the eq layout but in most cases adding mids and reducing bass and gain will get you a huge step closer to a great guitar sound.

Mac: BTW I recently switched to Boss GT-10 and now I'm doing everything with it. In hours-long direct comparison with Pod Hd, Digitech RP1000 and Zoom 9.2tt it was literally another level of goodness in every way. Killer device once you get the hang of it :thumbsup

korodesu

01-18-2011, 10:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGWjwnvHpY8

Aldrich's tone when he was playing with dio kills!

99 In The Shade

01-18-2011, 02:57 PM

I just rediscovered Firehouse.
What a fat strat tone that guy had :-x Is it all studio tech or what??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byq2K2IYMlI&ob=av2em

CreamedBeef

01-18-2011, 09:30 PM

House of Lords - Sahara

(the whole album)

killer songs and tone:thumbsup

Blix

01-20-2011, 03:47 AM

I really like Guthrie Govan's tone on anything he plays!! He is a monster. I also like Jimmy Herring's tone. Very advanced and subtle.

Check this out:

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Personally this is probably the best tone I've heard from him, he often sound too bland and muddy into those Cornford amps IMO, here he is using a CAA and sounds killer.

Andy Woods solo at the end RIPS as well.