Who can play this

[Motley_Rocker1]

What is it called right at the 33 second mark where the guitar screams/growls? I know it sounds similar to the Scorpions Rock you like a hurrican part where the guitar does the same thing anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms4D6T8h-gA

[pel666]

Sounds to me he is doing a bend on B and E string, with 3 frets between to raise/bend the B string to the E note...

[Motley_Rocker1]

Is the song overall hard to play? I can play right up until the 33 second mark, actually that's my friend playing I havent asked him since he's usually busy. And yes guys that is a Paul Dean:headbang

Pel where can I find more info on that technique or what is it called exactly?

[bkeen]

It is called "Learn how to google" or "Learn how to search on YouTube" :D

Actually it is called a unison bend.


Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Guitar+string+bends&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Tdcmx-eSM&feature=PlayList&p=310218075D5A1E6F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1)

:thumbsup

[Motley_Rocker1]

WOW! That, that one hit me. Allright what about the middle part of the song? I'm impressed! Ok thanks Bruce you're the king! Just for the record wasn't trying to be rude just a little sarcastic humour if you will

[bkeen]

Have a nice life dude!

I am done with you!

:arrg

[dan]

it is a cool sound definatly a unison bend.good luck with the rest.very cool song.:toast

[geetar10]

I know who CAN'T play it. :whistle

[BeN5150]

I know who CAN'T play it. :whistle

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Burn. :D

[PacerMedic]

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0911/rock-n-roll-gangsta-demotivational-poster-1257170507.jpg (http://www.motifake.com/rock-n-roll-gangsta-demotivational-poster-76341.html)

[Swanutt]

Ok that is not funny! Who give you that photo!, I have way more guitars & guns now:nono

[Motley_Rocker1]

I know who CAN'T play it. :whistle

Oh geez I forgot this is the part of the thread where the rude guys come in. Damn how I miss that, :scratchhe Ken I don't come on here claiming to know everything but to ask advice big difference. If you enjoy pissing people off that's your game buddy I don't play that. Besides I'm sure you were a rookie at one point, back in your hey day right? :headbang

Honestly what gives you an expertise to decide you one person better than the other one? If you can play this song and post it on here, then i give you kudos my friend!

[mmmtacos]

Sounds to me he is doing a bend on B and E string, with 3 frets between to raise/bend the B string to the E note...

If you can it's cool to do it on the G and B strings too. Same thing but less stretch due to the 1/2 step difference (less) between them.

It doesn't work on a floating floyd as well though due to d-tuning the unbent note when you bend the other one. To compensate you can hold the floyd down to stabilize it when you do the bend but it's not that great sounding:D (at least with my flawed playing:D )

[geetar10]

You said enough to tick off Bruce...He's the only nice guy left here...:)


Oh geez I forgot this is the part of the thread where the rude guys come in. Damn how I miss that, :scratchhe Ken I don't come on here claiming to know everything but to ask advice big difference. If you enjoy pissing people off that's your game buddy I don't play that. Besides I'm sure you were a rookie at one point, back in your hey day right? :headbang

Honestly what gives you an expertise to decide you one person better than the other one? If you can play this song and post it on here, then i give you kudos my friend!

[brokrguy]

Uh...did I miss something? Did you guys edit out some "f you's" or "your mama's so fat..." jokes that were in there originally?

What the hell is everyone getting so upset about? This is my birthday, so relax and enjoy it everyone...

Repeat after me: "I am at home with the me. I am rooted in the me who is on this adventure." :whistle

:thumbsup

[Motley_Rocker1]

I'm not liking what I see here anyway around. I don't like this attitude at all. No you guys are about to see another side of me. All I was trying to say that was easy for you since you've been playing for a while, it wasn't meant to be rude. Bruce I apologize if it sounded that way bro, not intended that way at all. I was trying to be sarcastic but if you took it wrong, I'm apolozing infront of everyone:toast

Ken I don't like this disrespect thing going here, I'm not digging this. I didn't come on here to start nothing just a simple question. That's disrespectful to me bro, when have I came on one of your threads and disrespected you like that? :nono I don't even care about this anymore if that's what you're going to do. Disrespect me and evet thread I make, according to your opinion. I would've never asked if I knew you were going to do that!!! Does anyone not see this or am I the only one here?

Yea these guys can't take a joke but they can make fun of me for no reason!

[popvamp]

Hey Motley, pretty basic Rock 101 technique here. Like has already been stated, it's just a unison bend.

I'd be willing to bet he's playing that pattern on the G and B strings.

To be specific, hold the 5th fret B string (E) and 7th fret G string (D), hit both notes and bend the G string up a full step to sound an E. It sounds like he plays this three times then moves the pattern up to the 8th fret B string (G) and 10th fret G string (F) and finally finishes with the 10th fret B string (A) and 12th fret G string (G). Just bend those G string notes up a step to match the B string note.

So all he's doing is sounding E, E, E...G, A, A

Don't know why this thread is garnering so many bitchy comments and 'tudes but I hope this helps. :thumbsup

[Motley_Rocker1]

Hey Motley, pretty basic Rock 101 technique here. Like has already been stated, it's just a unison bend.

I'd be willing to bet he's playing that pattern on the G and B strings.

To be specific, hold the 5th fret B string (E) and 7th fret G string (D), hit both notes and bend the G string up a full step to sound an E. It sounds like he plays this three times then moves the pattern up to the 8th fret B string (G) and 10th fret G string (F) and finally finishes with the 10th fret B string (A) and 12th fret G string (G). Just bend those G string notes up a step to match the B string note.

So all he's doing is sounding E, E, E...G, A, A

Don't know why this thread is garnering so many bitchy comments and 'tudes but I hope this helps. :thumbsup

THANK YOU now here's a man with integrity! Thanks bro much appreciated:toast

Bruce again I apologize infront of everyone if it sounded rude bro, not intended that way I'm sorry. Thank you for the link also bro

[jonasaberg]

I wonder if he's playing that on a Paul Dean or something with a fixed bridge though. As previously mentioned, when you bend a string on a guitar with a floating bridge, all other strings go flat. So bending the G while still keeping the B in tune is somewhat of a balancing act.

I usually tro to bend both strings but it's tough to hit the right notes. You could always "rock n' roll" it and make a "sex face" when you bend it, play with attitude and hope noone cares that it's slightly out of tune ;)

[pel666]

I wonder if he's playing that on a Paul Dean or something with a fixed bridge though. As previously mentioned, when you bend a string on a guitar with a floating bridge, all other strings go flat. So bending the G while still keeping the B in tune is somewhat of a balancing act.

I usually tro to bend both strings but it's tough to hit the right notes. You could always "rock n' roll" it and make a "sex face" when you bend it, play with attitude and hope noone cares that it's slightly out of tune ;)

Exactly the reason I changed my OFR based 'B' guitar to a fixed fine tuning bridge. The high string tension icw unison bends make it go reaeally flat! Plus it's not the most stable setup ;)

[kb7010]

If the shoe fits with Bruce and Ken.. then where it..!!! you know why they are mad at you..!!! or at least I would hope..?????

starts with a I need a ------ for my son thing..!!!!!!

are you that blind..???? :scratchhe

not nice to TRICK somebody out of a great guitar..!!! :nono :nono :nono :nono

what if the shoe was on the OTHER foot..??????? :whistle

[Motley_Rocker1]

Rex you really need to mind your bussines bro, I've had enough of your BS!

That guitar cost me alot of :money and whether it was for me or my kid that's really none of your bussines. You don't know how hard I had to work, the sweat I put in to pay for her, you act like I stole it. Move on;)

Sorry mods just trying to keep my cool, no harm intended:notworthy

[BeN5150]

No Comment.

Aside from...

That was the biggest bullshit scheme you could pull on someone, and you should be ashamed of yourself for doing that to get a guitar. That is why you get little respect from this forum. Why did you need that specific guitar? just to suck up to some no-name "hero" who really doesn't play anything note-worthy.

There is my comment.

[kb7010]

No Comment.

Aside from...

That was the biggest bullshit scheme you could pull on someone, and you should be ashamed of yourself for doing that to get a guitar. That is why you get little respect from this forum. Why did you need that specific guitar? just to suck up to some no-name "hero" who really doesn't play anything note-worthy.

There is my comment.

+ infinity.. somebody finally said it besides me.. You came on here and pretended that your son was crying his eyes out EVERY DAMN DAY AND NIGHT because he just had to HAVE THAT GUITAR.. same color and EVERY THING...!!! :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs and more :bs

then it turns out the guitar was for YOU..!!!! imagine that..!!!! again more :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs
you don't think that pissed people off..?????? :stupid

get a F'in life..

what you don't think I don't work hard for every thing I have..?????? guess again dude..!!!!!!!!!!!

you are a piece of slime in my book along with others on these forums I am willing to bet you..!!!!!!

you have quit how many times now..???????? :scratchhe

why not just leave for good..???????? and do us ALL a FAVOR A**MOLE..!!!!!!

[flyingvfreak]

Dang!!! anyways , were on earth did you find that Tiajuana Metal :lol Oda le! :headbang

[brokrguy]

AHA! I knew I was missing something (besides lots of brain cells and numerous body parts :D )!!!

Since I would have to characterize Rex, Bruce, and Ben as "stand-up guys" (straight-talkin' and truthful, I mean, not comedians) in my KF experience, I had to research this feud a little further, and...

The situation was pre-brokrguy-as-KF'er, but I got to the root of it, and now I can understand the hostility...

Let me just say for the record, that while I did originally state that I got the silver 300ST with the intent to give it to my son, I said soon after that it needed work and that I would probably end up keeping it for myself...I also got it fair n square in a feebay auction (probably overpaid, but what the hell), without deceiving any KF members, bothering them with 1000's of PM's, or saying anything about their mothers...not only that, my son has his own Ibanez, and access to any of my guitars whenever he wants, and I will give him the Striker tomorrow (although it still needs work) if that will keep me in everyones' good graces...:whistle

All sarcasm aside, I'm an easygoing guy by nature (nowadays anyway), but I'd have to say that you may be reaping what you have sown, Rocker...or, in Rex's terms: bad karma has come back to bite you in the ass, bro...

:thumbsup

[Motley_Rocker1]

No Comment.
to suck up to some no-name "hero" who really doesn't play anything note-worthy.

There is my comment.

No name hero, who doesn't play anything special? Ok, 50 years of experience,won several trophies in the 70s. Plays as a professional for over 40 years now, recorded that rock n roll album 10 years ago and sold very well. Is considered one of the best guitarist from Mexico, and for the fact that in every show they go to I always see some Americans in public applauding him for his performance yea you're right I'm an idiot. :scratchhe Clearly I'm missing the point, :stupid I rather have experience than a "nobody's" personal opinion any day:idea

Rex you can kiss my ass for all I care bro! You get a fkn life and if I get band for defending myself from others than so be it. I started this thread looking for some tips on how to play something and you pendejos start bashing me, fk NO!I'm done!

[jonasaberg]

IMHO, there is no way this thread is going to end well. The original question was answered so I suggest this thread be locked.

[bkeen]

I agree, this thread has really gone down the toilet. I knew better than to post here in the first place but I am the eternal optimist, to a point, which has been reached.

But.... I don't think attacks are necessary. I know it is hard to keep quiet but nothing has been accomplished by this malay.
Some times being quiet speaks volumes....

This really is just a run on of a bunch of other threads. It has all been said before. It is old and no longer news worthy.

And there is always the ignore feature...

May the force be with you, always..... ;)

:thumbsup

[pel666]

I'd say....put a LOCK on it...

[sprocket226]

I always thought "pendejos" began with a "b".
Learn something new everyday, I guess. :brow

[BeN5150]

I've had to defend the forum from this douchebag before, I'll do it again.

I do realize that to a lot of you I am coming across as a complete asshole, some of you may stick with this thought as time goes one. But, at one this "motley-rocker" character badmouthed the ENTIRE forum for not selling him a highly prized guitar 'for his son' after about 2 days of waiting. Then we go through all his bullshit to find out he has been a manipulative prick and we're supposed to stand by like fuckin idiots, I personally don't believe that is right, I believe that is fraud.

Shane, your here for the party, your a good dude :D

[popvamp]

Wow...it took me a bit to catch up (I'm slow) on this thread but damn...:yikes :arrg

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16979

This was a good read...I'm definitely caught up on this BS now! :D
Although reading this saga spoiled an otherwise outstanding plate of Thai food, I do have a new found admiration for Lt. Dan! :thumbsup

Please disregard my earlier comment about the bitchy replies...fire at will! :happy1

[kb7010]

Read that thread now popvamp..

I am done ..

I will put up a challenge for you Alex..... a vote so to speak..

one vote per person..

kb7010 leaves and Motley_Rocker1 stays

or

Motley_Rocker1 leaves and kb7010 stays..

if you get more votes to stay than me .. I will NEVER COME back again..!!!!! never look EVER...

but if I get more votes.. you must do the same..

NEVER COME BACK.. no reading without logging in..!!!!!!!!

I can post this thread in the Klassifieds where only forum members can vote... leave it up for 1 or 2 weeks ( up to you ) and may the best person win..

game on...?????????

or are you afraid you might just have to leave after people find out about the REAL YOU..???????????????


I will even let you say why I should leave.. and why you should stay.. and I won't say a thing..

so a closing argument so to speak for JUST you.. as I won't do one..!!!!!!


and you answer Alex is ....??????????
:scratchhe :scratchhe :scratchhe :scratchhe :scratchhe

[cc85]

"Bruce,

No problem. I'll keep my eyes open and probably wait another 4 years to wait for one to pop up...hopefully little boy will grow up and forget about his dream axe, and forget it exist. and I'll forget that I'm a poor single father who couldn't make his kid's dream happen. he doesn't get stoked about much around anymore but he really got into that pd. i won't make any excuses, i now leave as humble and full of integrity as when i first got on here."

:yikes Wow, I need to go wipe the tears from my eyes......not:scratchhe
__________________

[flyingvfreak]

:scratchhe :scratchhe :help

[kb7010]

:scratchhe :scratchhe :help

that was a quote

by all means please read it if you would like...

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16979

[moku]

easy, rex. why are we letting this escalade to the level of "you leave the forum or i leave"?
what alex did 2 years ago will (has already) come back to him. frankly i think he has suffered enough of lambasting. ;) he's also apologized many times already. no one likes to be cheated, but i'm not sure why you are getting so fired up, over and over again? dan is not even as pissed as you.
ppl are generally complex and act the way they do for reasons we do not know. it's better to be more understanding, no? we'll live happier that way :D
wouldn't we want the same from others?

[skydive69]

he needs to take your lead and maybe use some of your zazen ki...........

[moku]

rex doesn't need to take my lead. i'm an idiot. :-| he'll figure it out. :thumbsup

[bkeen]

he needs to take your lead and maybe use some of your zazen ki...........

:scratchhe I had to look that up.. :D

I just call it "going to my Happy Place"


:happy1

[brokrguy]

You're not an idiot, Jim...but, uh...what exactly is that avatar? Looks like a camera accidentally took a shot of my ceiling...

Rex, no way you leaving the KF should be an option (not that it would go that way, anyway). I dunno - considering the type of forum this is and what we are all about (or claim to be about), lying to get your hands on a very rare axe is a pretty big deal, especially w/ all of the "single father, distraught son" BS that was slung. That should be a ban-able offense, IMO.

All right, I think he has tarnished his rep for good here - I say let this thread die, but let him post at his own risk. Where will he get all the free advice from now on? Seriously - did anyone else notice all the "help me" and "tell me about" posts? JEEZ. I can only imagine the PM's.

:thumbsup

[flyingvfreak]

Where will he get all the free advice from now on?

I know were :whistle A happy Place :D aka SG ;)

[moku]

:D :D :D

[jonasaberg]

he needs to take your lead and maybe use some of your zazen ki...........

Is that some meditation thing:scratchhe

And why do I get an image in my head of an icy cave with pinguins? :scratchhe :yikes :D

[skydive69]

You're not an idiot, Jim...but, uh...what exactly is that avatar? Looks like a camera accidentally took a shot of my ceiling...





dude, what have you been throwing against your ceiling thats sticking there??? remind me to never walk through your house without looking up.......

see here.......

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35739

[Midnight_Highway]

getting back to the technique question, here's a tutorial: ;)

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[RoteGitarre]

:happy1:happy1:happy1

I haven't seen Homestar in years! Nice find! :thumbsup

[mmmtacos]

getting back to the technique question, here's a tutorial: ;)

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That's too funny:D

[Blue Baretta]

That cracked me up!!!!!!!

John

[moku]

:funny....

ahhh... i can always count on having a good laugh logging on to the forum.

[KramerUK]

Way to funny George :happy1 :happy1

[jonasaberg]

Now THERE is a guy who can play!

MeedleymeedleymeedlyMEEEEEEH :headbang

[BeN5150]

I like the bass, dow dow dow, da dow....


NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

[Kostas Dee]

LOL yeah that cracked me up too :lol

As far as Motley's issues,i've read his old thread etc and i must agree with some other guys that he acted like a "douche" and this last word would have been his signature line for at least a year or less but i think you must give this guy a break now.

He had his time in "assholes prison" and i think its time to move on.:thumbsup