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Pacer Guy

08-06-2009, 03:33 PM

New Stack Day :)
It's more than I need... But you only live once :D (plus they were a bargain ;))

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/001-16-1.jpg
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/002-25-2.jpg
(don't laugh at the custom rack stand :D)

Opinions needed... Leave the grilles blue, or paint them flat black :scratchhe

Seller is a cool guy... My age, bought the stack new back in the day (along with the Mp1 I want) :thumbsup He still has a 86 Pacer as well ;) If it's as mint as the cabs were... I'm may need to try and talk him out of it :)

Full Crib

08-06-2009, 03:38 PM

Keep the grills blue...but refin the desk in flat black and add some chrome corner protectors:D :D

....do they sound as good as they look??:urock

errbt

08-06-2009, 03:56 PM

Keep the grills blue...but refin the desk in flat black and add some chrome corner protectors:D :D
:lol :lol :lol

lostinthemasses

08-06-2009, 04:02 PM

doesnt look like too much to me

Pacer Guy

08-06-2009, 04:13 PM

Keep the grills blue...but refin the desk in flat black and add some chrome corner protectors:D :D

....do they sound as good as they look??:urock

:D:D Now that is a good idea :thumbsup
Maybe that is what I need... A poll on what to use to hold the rack :) The rack is to big to set on top of the speaker cabs (to deep) :-x Got to be some better way :)

The cabs sound great... 50 watt Celestions... Really similar in sound to a Marshall 4x12 with 75 watt Celestions :thumbsup

Rick S

08-06-2009, 04:29 PM

Looks cool in blue.:thumbsup You playing that is a small room? If so, can you even hear yourself through the noise? I do actually like the custom stand.:)

unchained1984

08-06-2009, 05:22 PM

Looking good Don, I think the rack & cabs might just have taken over your writing desk :bananahea keep 'em blue for sure, what's the foot board over on the right ?

rjs1

08-06-2009, 06:36 PM

looks awesome :thumbsup

good score there !!!!:drool but they would look better in my house :D :)

floydkramer

08-06-2009, 07:32 PM

Looks good Don.
I kind dig the blue look,...its rare,..& eveyones stack grill is black.
I really like the 2X12 option for easy moving around too!
Nice Stack!:headbang

Pacer Guy

08-06-2009, 07:47 PM

Thanks guys :thumbsup
The Blue is kind of growing on me. I think I'll leave it be :thumbsup

Sandy,
That's the GR 33 guitar synth :)
The desk is pretty well hosed :D

Rick,
the room is a spare bedroom, so it's not real large. I haven't pushed the poweramp past 5, so it's not to bad :)

Now I'm going the rounds on placing them next to each other, or leaving them apart :scratchhe The Stereo spread as they sit now is really pretty good basically with the delay set to pan. But I don't use that very often...

kb7010

08-06-2009, 09:06 PM

doesnt look like too much to me

WHAT..????? a wall of speakers doesn't look like much to you..?????? :scratchhe

put them together and they make a full stack as a FYI for ya..!!!!!

very cool Don..
just leave them alone bud..!!!! :hitit

warbrill

08-06-2009, 09:09 PM

Just try every permutation of stacking, unstacking, and so on. It'll be fun, and you'll find the best configuration in the best way -- by doing it. As far as setting up the rack, Office Depot has a heavy duty folding table that might work. You could probably get some of that Krylon that's designed for plastic parts and put a very cool paint job on it. http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/396392/Iceberg-IndestrucTable-TOO-1200-Series-Adjustable/?cm_mmc=Mercent-_-Shopzilla-_-Tables-_-396392&mr:referralID=12f4b44d-82f7-11de-989b-000423bb4e79

Pacer Guy

08-07-2009, 12:00 AM

Thanks for the link on the table :thumbsup that looks like something like that would do the trick...

Moved together... (shameless pic of the GKG ;) still playing great)
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/005-23-1.jpg

Seemed to have gained a little more bottom end :scratchhe
Stereo separation is still not bad but not like when they are 5 feet apart, but I expected that ;)
I'll give it a few days to see how it works out :thumbsup

halo71

08-07-2009, 12:04 AM

Don, that looks killer setting them together. Now all you need is 4 more to go on the other side of the desk! :thumbsup :headbang

Pacer Guy

08-07-2009, 12:07 AM

Don, that looks killer setting them together. Now all you need is 4 more to go on the other side of the desk! :thumbsup :headbang

That would be sweet Gary :) May be a little tough to find four more around for sale though :scratchhe:)

rjs1

08-07-2009, 12:07 AM

Don, that looks killer setting them together. Now all you need is 4 more to go on the other side of the desk! :thumbsup :headbang

+1 hehe:jump

jonasaberg

08-07-2009, 12:31 AM

I think I've found a way for you married guys to get more gear; just buy enough so your kids can build a fort. It's fun, educational family time!

Oh and I like the blue too.

lostinthemasses

08-07-2009, 01:34 AM

lol

and a fullstack isn't too much

i have a fullstack

1eyedjack

08-10-2009, 03:10 PM

The blue definitely rocks. Here's a thought: Put the cabinets back to back, away from the wall, and then you can put the rack on top. Might work, and might sound awesome. Then again it might sound like shit :lol , but it's worth a shot.

Pacer Guy

08-10-2009, 04:27 PM

You never know... it may not sound to bad :)
Did a little peak inside the cabs (wanted to make sure the original speakers were still there :))
Yup... Originals are still there, Celestion G12 50's :thumbsup
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/001-16.jpg
Cabs seem to be well made, and insulted as well :)
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/002-25.jpg
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/004-21.jpg

I'm thinking about picking up a bigger rack that has casters, and doesn't need anything to sit on :) (good times to move) I'll have more additions to ad to the rack here in the future so the extra space would be welcomed :thumbsup

Dr. Greenthumb

08-13-2009, 08:59 AM

:toast Don...those are bad ass!:drool

Mike

mikethaninefive

08-13-2009, 11:05 AM

lol

and a fullstack isn't too much

i have a fullstack

I don't usually like to butt in, but huh?? :alien Nobody needs your rig from the "Straight Out of Lynnwood" tour, and if they did chances are that wall of Marshall stacks you see in the arena is actually at the most two heads and four cabs powered. At the most. For an arena. Unless it's a bunch of kids in a HC band that don't wan't to pay a sound guy, 9/10 your cab is mic'ed- you could use a 112 combo (as alot of people with GREAT sound do) and be plenty loud. This is a stab in the dark, but I'm guessing you work/worked at a big box store that rhymes with Siotar Placenter.

Now that my rant is over, NICE setup! If my vote counts, I also like the blue!:drool

jc_lbc

08-13-2009, 11:20 AM

Are the blue grills original? If so, those are really friggin' cool! I remember lusting over these cabs (but all black) when I was in high school. :) But in any case, I think you should definitely leave them.

My first decent piece of gear was an ADA MP-1 (even had the Quadroverb too) but it didn't last long as I got more into cranking a normal amp as opposed to carting around a rack of stuff, still, ADA is a company that I've always been super bummed went away. They made so much great stuff.

Pacer Guy

08-13-2009, 11:36 AM

JB, no the grilles were originally black, the previous owner painted them blue :)

It's kind of ironic, I've went full circle basically back to what I had in the 80's. After going through a few different amps/pedals and what not, I'm back were it began for me :D

lostinthemasses

08-13-2009, 12:29 PM

I don't usually like to butt in, but huh?? :alien Nobody needs your rig from the "Straight Out of Lynnwood" tour, and if they did chances are that wall of Marshall stacks you see in the arena is actually at the most two heads and four cabs powered. At the most. For an arena. Unless it's a bunch of kids in a HC band that don't wan't to pay a sound guy, 9/10 your cab is mic'ed- you could use a 112 combo (as alot of people with GREAT sound do) and be plenty loud. This is a stab in the dark, but I'm guessing you work/worked at a big box store that rhymes with Siotar Placenter.

Now that my rant is over, NICE setup! If my vote counts, I also like the blue!:drool

you think i dont know about dummy cabs?

you're right, house sound is usually what you'd use, but what if you're playing a house party or a small venue that doesnt have a house sound?

that's where a full stack is the shiz

in any situation with house sound you'd be fine with a half stack

and in any recording situation your best bet would be 2x12 or 1x12 setups

and yes, i did used to work at guitar center

mikethaninefive

08-13-2009, 01:16 PM

Does nobody else notice this? :D :lol

lostinthemasses

08-13-2009, 01:37 PM

is that an attempt at dogging on my avatar?

Kramer_nut

08-13-2009, 02:44 PM

I'm not ragging on anyone but I gig quite a bit and have never needed a full stack for any gig. Sure it looks cool but my single 12 combo or if I feel like it I pull out my 50w half stack. I just can't figure out where some guys are using these 100w full stack Marshall's? :scratchhe :scratchhe

If you guys are playing out and can use full stacks I want to move to your town and play those gigs.!!

Sorry to hijack, back to the thread.

I like the blue grilles, something different is always OK with me.

Todd

stunt double

08-13-2009, 02:49 PM

well, first off, i'm surprised no one mentioned the hardcore heavy metal lamp on top!!! that thing rocks!!!

second, that looks like a great setup - congrats!!

third, this thing with lostinmasses got twisted. pacer guy said "its more than i need" lostinmasses said " it dont look like too much to me" i think others are taking that as he dont think much of the rig, i take it as him saying its not excessive.

lostinthemasses

08-13-2009, 02:54 PM

EXACTLY

seriously though, i have 14 guitars, many of us here have more, i consider 14 to be a fair amount but a small collection, but since i'm a lefty it's not exactly easy to build up an arsenal of top-notch axes

as far as amps go, if i was in a studio i'd be using a 2x12 cab for 90% of the recordings

if i was in a venue with a house sound i'd be using a half stack

if i was at a house party or a bar with no house sound i'd be using a full stack

my full stack pushes 300w RMS and 600w max, so 150w rms is what i'm running with a half stack, that's plenty of power

Pacer Guy

08-13-2009, 03:03 PM

I picked up the full stack because the price was right (400 bucks). I only wanted two cabs to begin with :thumbsup But the 80's side of me talked me into all 4 cabs :D and the owner didn't really want to split them up (he bought them new) and really I can't blame him... Kinda like when an old Kramer gets parted out :)

For playing out, I would only use two, and that's more for looks than anything. I get a pretty good tone with the volume about half way up which is more than loud enough for the small hole in the wall bars around me :thumbsup

:D My heavy metal lamp rocks :headbang It's a touch lamp at that. You get the volume up loud enough and it turns off and on by itself :D

I agree with Stunt Doubles analogy of what was said :thumbsup That was how I took it anyway :)

Full Crib

08-13-2009, 03:13 PM

Keep em blue Don...but I would keep my eyes open for four more...after you solve the desk delimma...:thumbsup

Pacer Guy

08-13-2009, 03:36 PM

Keep em blue Don...but I would keep my eyes open for four more...after you solve the desk delimma...:thumbsup

:D:D I've already been looking for 4 more :D:D;)

The desk will be going away soon... It's actually my wifes sewing machine desk, it opens up, and there's a sewing machine in there :D

halo71

08-13-2009, 03:44 PM

:D:D I've already been looking for 4 more :D:D;)

Told ya Don....that you needed 4 more to balance things out! :lol

FUNG SWAY....... :D

G.A.S. Ackward

08-13-2009, 08:11 PM

Wow! How did I miss this thread?:scratchhe

That is a 110%:drool :drool :drool :drool :drool :headbang :headbang :headbang rig!!!

I swear, I was around in the 80's when these were the big thing and I don't remember ever seeing blue grills. That is toooooo cool, bro.

I bet the stereo spread with that MP1 is huge with the cabs apart.

Again, congrats! That is way cool:thumbsup

korodesu

08-13-2009, 08:37 PM

Wow nice setup, I'm jealous. 400 is a total steal for that, I paid 150 for just 1 of those 2x12's... still need the other lol.

Pacer Guy

08-13-2009, 09:02 PM

Craig, the stereo spread is pretty cool when the cabs are spread apart, even though it looks kind of weird ;) But with the chorus or a delay on a ping pong setting it's pretty crazy :)
The blue grilles are growing on me... The guy I bought them from said one of his friends told him to paint them blue :) So he thought why not :D

Korodesu, I feel pretty lucky to have picked these up for what I did. I'm sure the seller could have gotten more for them. From what I have seen in looking around 150 to 200 a cab or more seems like what they are going for.

Thanks guys :thumbsup

Full Crib

08-13-2009, 09:11 PM

does it look like this...?????if so, she's a keeeper....
<a href="http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy62/fullcrib/?action=view&current=Singer_SewingMachine.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy62/fullcrib/Singer_SewingMachine.jpg" border="0" alt="singer"></a>

Pacer Guy

08-13-2009, 09:18 PM

does it look like this...?????if so, she's a keeeper....
http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy62/fullcrib/Singer_SewingMachine.jpg (http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy62/fullcrib/?action=view&current=Singer_SewingMachine.jpg)

Well it is a Singer... But not quite like that one :)

1eyedjack

08-13-2009, 10:18 PM

Where is Lynnwood? And on that note, I am of the belief that is always better to have more power at your disposal, than less power than you need. I've used my 5150 as a practice amp, rehersal amp, club amp, and in a pretty big theater (5000 people), it will cover all the bases and has never left me feeling like I needed something more.