ADA mp-1

[rjs1]

So with all u guys talkin about these.... there was 1 for sale locally, so I just picked it up $160
this thing is amazing !!!!
I'm just sittin here going thru the presets and its KILLER, and I'm just listenin thru headphones!
Got to find me a power amp and cab now!!!!

Good buy Randall rg3:jump

Ray

[sumrnitz]

Buy any old cheap run of the mill BBE Sonic Maximizer and watch it tonally take off like a rocketship.:headbang

[G.A.S. Ackward]

Buy any old cheap run of the mill BBE Sonic Maximizer and watch it tonally take off like a rocketship.:headbang

He speaks the truth! I was blown away with mine, too. Completely digging the crunchy tubey tones, not to mention that HUGE chorus.

Then threw a BBE in the chain. WOW!:yikes It completely came to life. Amazing.

Have fun, man!:toast :thumbsup

[Steve EZ]

Yeah but try to get a tube power amp some decent cabinets if you can. I used mine with a solid state amp for awhile before trying an ADA power amp with it. Big difference. :yikes

[rjs1]

which BBE sonic maximizer is the 1 to get ?

there seems like a whole bunch of different models out there ?:thumbsup

[sumrnitz]

They basically all do the same thing. Some are dual channel, etc. Really depends on if you are going to go stereo. With racks, my motto is to "plan for tomorrow". Get a stereo one if you can so you are ready if/when the time comes. I'm using a 482i. There are TONS of them and the others on the used market.
Like Master Pimpdaddy Steve said, go all tube soon as you can. That will be your biggest expense. Then find an effects unit, an eq and a compressor...all can be had used for low coinage.

[flyingvfreak]

Nice!! I got a Power amp and several Cabs for you! How $$ you got, Look for the Peavy Stereo Classics amps The Carvin tube 100 and the Mosvalve by Toneworks , Killer Amps :thumbsup

[Pacer Guy]

Welcome to the club :toast
As everyone has said, grab a BBE. You'll be in for a surprise:) I was using a 422a (old BBE) until it gave up the ghost :-x So in my search, I ended up going new, and bought the 362. But look around, there are plenty of used BBE's out there. All different versions, but try and find one that is stereo. Even if you can't run stereo for the time being, as Chris said, plan for the future :thumbsup
Looks of great poweramps out there as well, and most are dual channel. I really like the Peavey Classic 50/50. But the Mosvalve, the Classic 60/60, and the Ada power amps can be found reasonably priced and will work great as well :thumbsup
For cabinets, I downsized, and went with two of the Blackheart 1x12 cabs. Budget cabs, but have decent Eminence speakers, and sound pretty good... Not quite like a 4x12, but a whole lot easier to transport :)
Congrats on the new Mp1 and enjoy it :thumbsup :thumbsup

[rjs1]

yah... I looked on craigslist and found a few bbe sonic maximizers, and an e-mail sent to all of them !

I gotta do this on a budget hehe.... cause all the rack stuff I've seen on craiglist that has passed me by was cheap ! so it will be a work in progress. also gonna dump some stuff. anyone want a epi t-bird bass with case and a randall rg75 g3 hehe

this is the total opposite of what is was gonna buy !
I was gonna get rid of my Randall and buy a Blackstar ht-5 combo hehe.... oh well:toast

[unchained1984]

The MP-1's are great, so long as you can hold a solder iron carrying out the battery socket mod is worth doing next time you need to change the battery out. As you'll soon discover the BBE will truly lift the bass & treble.

[RacerR]

Ray - you will find this to be an awesome preamp. I've been an ADA player since '88 - my original from then is the bottom unit in this rack.

[heem6]

So I've always wanted to know if the ADA MP-1 is easy to use?

Are the presets good or do you have to do deep programming to get the good sounds out of it?

[Pacer Guy]

The Mp1 is very user friendly :thumbsup The stock presets are pretty good.
It basically the same as using an amp, but with more channels than you will know what to do with :)
There is OD1-OD2-Master-Bass-Mid-Treble-Presence. So instead of turning a knob, you press the button that corresponds to what you want to adjust after pushing the edit button, and then use the up-down buttons to adjust, once done, press the store button, and whichever number you want to assign to the preset (up to 128) :thumbsup pretty simple.
The rest of the buttons are for the effects loop (can be turned on/off for each preset) the Chorus Depth (which is also doubles as a notch filter, when the rate is set to zero) and Rate. They are also used for the Midi functions as well. Then there is the Voicing button to select tube distortion-tube clean and solid state.
One of the easier preamps I have used :headbang

[KramerTamer]

MP-1 3TM.......The holy grail.........I rotated alot in and out before I got to this rack and it's perfect. Some guys say they need tubes in the power amp. I've played mine through a Mesa and VHT.....Sound good great even but I'm happy as hell with a TubeWorks 962 or an 1160 as in the picture. Warms up the 3TM without overpowering it.......:thumbsup I guess with a little stock MP-1 a tube power amp might be needed......:D I use a compressor sometimes too but the 3TM has great sustain........Go with a 482i maximizer as mentioned. Two complete processors for stereo...:thumbsup An EQ helps for low end at low volumes......

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/KramerTamer/currentrack1009.jpg

[heem6]

Thanks for the reviews. Sounds like I may have to start watching out for one!

[rjs1]

well I just won a BBE 822 sonic maximizer for $30 on the bay :thumbsup

Still lookin for an amp thou :toast

Ray

[amerturk]

Anyone know the difference between an ADA MP-1 and an ADA MP-1 Classic?

[Pacer Guy]

Ohh.. A classic?? Nice :thumbsup The classic has the added Brown voicing :) Stereo effects loop, recording outs with selectable cab voicing and a noise gate :thumbsup
There pretty sweet, and a lot of people prefer the Classic over the original.
I'd take one... Love to use a Classic, along with the original :)

[amerturk]

OK, just got the ADA MP-1 home and I'm cleaning it up. Can't wait to test it my gear. I tested prior to buying am it sounds great.

[Pacer Guy]

OK, just got the ADA MP-1 home and I'm cleaning it up. Can't wait to test it my gear. I tested prior to buying am it sounds great.

So is it a Classic???

[rjs1]

OK, just got the ADA MP-1 home and I'm cleaning it up. Can't wait to test it my gear. I tested prior to buying am it sounds great.

sweet..... your gonna love it :jump

[amerturk]

Not a classic. It's the Version 1.38 or something. :)

[G.A.S. Ackward]

Not a classic. It's the Version 1.38 or something. :)

Same one as mine. Switch on top? Have fun:thumbsup:headbang

[heem6]

:drool All this ADA talk is enuff to make a guy jealous! :drool

Can you all tell me if these would sound good plugged directly into a Delta 44 soundcard and ProTools? I'm always looking for a direct-in alternative to mic'ing amps.

[amerturk]

Switch on top!

Heem6: The dude I bought it from said guys are going computer with this thing. I guess you'll have to look at adadepot.com for it. :)

[Pacer Guy]

Heem, you can use the headphone out jack (it has a simulated cab) to go into the soundcard. Works pretty good, but the ideal is either the Mp1 Classic, Mp2 or the Ada Microcab along with the Mp1 for recording :thumbsup

[heem6]

Thanks for passing along that info, AmerTurk and PacerGuy!:thumbsup

[rjs1]

just scored 1 more piece of the puzzle
A 112 crate cab loaded with a 12 inch green back for $100. guess I'm not going stereo for awhile

Amerturk let me know what tubes u stuff in there as I got the same version as u

Out 2morrow to the pawn shops as I haven't had any luck finding a power amp:banghead

Someone sell me there marshall 20/20 or I'll even take a Marshall 8008 or 8004:toast

Ray

[Pacer Guy]

Congrats ^^^^^^ Sounds like your down to the last piece. I wouldn't worry to much about going Stereo, just nice to have the stuff that will let you do it when the time comes. The Crate cab should be nice with a Greenback in it :thumbsup
Good luck on the poweramp hunt... Should be something out there :thumbsup

[rjs1]

ok... I been looking all over for a power amp with much luck !

The best so far I've found is a tubeworks Mosvalve 962 for $200 these seem pretty solid !

Its really overkill for what what I'm gonna run it thru hehe, my little 1 12 cab with a green back

I was really looking for something with alittle less wattage, but seeing what they go for on E-bay I guess I'll buy it and if something else comes up I atleast won't lose $

your thoughts on the mosvalve are appreciated !!!

Ray

[rjs1]

my mini rig :thumbsup

still waiting for the bbe

Ray

[Pacer Guy]

Nice :thumbsup That's a great start. The BBE will be the icing on the cake :) How's it sounding so far??

[rjs1]

too loud... hehe the ole lady alredy told me to turn it down:thumbsup

I have to really spend sometime to get use to the mp-1 !
I've only made like 1 patch !
I've been running thru what was already programmed and a lot are really on the high gain side, and I mean they squeeel :D

Lotsa editing to do :toast

Ray

[rjs1]

its comming along :thumbsup :toast

Ray

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/rjs1962/SDC10231.jpg

[Bluesman001]

Alrighty then fellers,

Looks like I'm about to be in the club. A guy at sevenstring.org has an MP-1 (asking $200) and I'm trading my well used pedalboard (SKB-PS-15), a Morley Bad Horsie Wah and a Boss TU-2 tuner for his ADA MP-1 and a Sabine RT-1600 tuner (Sabine is prob crap, but will do for now...) Can't wait.

I'm probably going to sell my Peavey 4x10 to fund a tube power amp and/or a cab. I have a line on a BBE for a good price, all I need now is a Furman, and a multi-effects unit. Eventually I'll get a TC Electronics G-Major or whatever. For now I still have my GT-8.

I'm aiming to go somewhere like in this thread:
http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30806

or:
http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19268&page=7

:toast :alien :jump

[rjs1]

Alrighty then fellers,

Looks like I'm about to be in the club. A guy at sevenstring.org has an MP-1 (asking $200) and I'm trading my well used pedalboard (SKB-PS-15), a Morley Bad Horsie Wah and a Boss TU-2 tuner for his ADA MP-1 and a Sabine RT-1600 tuner (Sabine is prob crap, but will do for now...) Can't wait.

I'm probably going to sell my Peavey 4x10 to fund a tube power amp and/or a cab. I have a line on a BBE for a good price, all I need now is a Furman, and a multi-effects unit. Eventually I'll get a TC Electronics G-Major or whatever. For now I still have my GT-8.

I'm aiming to go somewhere like in this thread:
http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30806

or:
http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19268&page=7

:toast :alien :jump


right on, u will enjoy it !!!! I spent like a week just enyoying the dudes pre-sets ! Some of the cleans he had stored were awesome !

good luck with it !!!
:toast

Ray

[Bluesman001]

Ray,

I found a power amp on ebay similar to yours
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160336228375

How do you like yours?

[KramerTamer]

That 962 TubeWorks is a great stereo power amp... I've been through lots of PA's and the 1160 I just sold Gary and the 962 I'm using now are ultra clean with just the right amount of warming. Perfect for an MP-1 which I use exclusively. The only other power amp I'd even consider using at this point is a VHT which I'm going to buy but I'll still use my 962 as well. Tube power amps are over rated as far as I'm concerned. Most of your distortion (at least what I want) comes from the pre-amp and the break up of the speakers. There are few times you will ever see or hear the benefit of the power amps break up. A pure tube power amp ripped to breaking will tear the roof off of most small venue's before I would ever hear the benefit of one against an early MosValve. Butler knows his shit and those early 962's do just what they are supposed to...... Crank huge sound, clean with a cut in the top...... But I have to admit VHT breaks the mold, they break up at a lower volume and are the best available. But you pay for em. BTW.....Stereo DOES MATTER!!! You will never go back once you go total stereo... But it has to be system wide....

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/KramerTamer/currentrack1009.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/KramerTamer/Mosvalvepoweramp.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/KramerTamer/mosvalvepoweramp2.jpg

[KramerTamer]

Ray,

I found a power amp on ebay similar to yours
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160336228375

How do you like yours?

Average min price on an mv962 is $200.00... If you get it for less than that your doing good...:thumbsup

[kb7010]

as a FYI.. that switch on top does something.. one way is for a power amp.. the other way is for running into a guitar amp.. MAKE SURE you have yours in the correct position..!!!!!

also.. if you have rack rash and it is bothering you.. you can "flip" the bottom inside for the top outside.. and so forth..!!!! <---I hope that last one made since..??? ;)

and + whatever on the BBE..!!! :thumbsup

[Pacer Guy]

Welcome to the Mp1 Club :)
If the Mosvale stays close to were it's at, looks like it could be had pretty cheap :thumbsup Great poweramp :thumbsup

[ElChiguete]

Might br joining the MP1 club, but I have a question on the BBE, where does it go in the rack? before or after the preamp?

[Pacer Guy]

I would recommend after the Mp1 and any other effects. Basically last in line before the poweramp :thumbsup That seems to work well and is a pretty popular way to go :)
If you look at mine, it's the last in the signal path from the guitar.

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/pcrdlx/003-23-1.jpg