God damned bridge!

[fuzz63]

Watch out!

Hi ,I just bought from kristin@bcrmusic.com
the original hardtail bridge that was missing from my 650G .
I was such a fool to pay $100 plus $28 for the mail service ,becouse I'm in love with that guitar and without the bridge i couldn't set the action and the intonation and all the other replacement bridges i tryied didn't fit.
They said that the bridge was in very good condition but that was a lie.:arrg
Unfortunately the two of the wagons are destroyed .
I'm desperate now.:banghead
Is there anyone that has in stock any of those wagons from that bridge and wants to trade it or share that lucky with me?:scratchhe
gmix1963@yahoo.gr
Thanks

[Midnight_Highway]

As long as you have the baseplate, you can just replace the saddles..here's an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Guitar-Vintage-Tele-Bridge-6-Saddle-Chrome_W0QQitemZ150222346021QQihZ005QQcategoryZ41407QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[fuzz63]

Thanks Midnight highway for your advise.

I never had a tele so i don't know the dimensions of the tele saddles.(does anybody know's that?):scratchhe
I see that the original Kramer saddles are very small!
I will measure them and I'll try to find something close.

The other problem (I think) will be , that the Kramer's saddle screws are longer than the tele's(is that right?)

Anyway I'll try to find something.
Thank you very much for your help.
You really gave me a way out!
Have a nice day:toast

[Midnight_Highway]

Good luck bro. I think most guitar manufacturers made the saddles standard-sized, it's just the baseplate that varies. So yeah look for replacement saddles--as long as you have the baseplate you're cool. :thumbsup

George

[fuzz63]

After a research with a friend of mine who is luthier i found that the original Kramer bridge saddles are smaller than any other in the market.
But i was a little bit lucky couse after three days try outs with my luthier friend we managed to take off the rusty and damaged screws from the almost damaged saddles.
So it seems that everything is working now except two damages screws from the saddles.
We tried to find something similar but between hundreds of screws from fender,gibson and every well known type nothing fits!
So i have two options , continue searching or make one from scratch.
I will report any progress.
By the way if anybody knows where could i find similar screws with the same dimensions (where are you Kramer masters?)
or has some to trade or offer I beg him to tell me.:)
Thanks for the help ,especial U Midnight highway and have a nice day.

[KrameRemarK]

I remember seeing a complete Aluminium neck Kramer bridge on the 'Bay about 1 or 2 months ago which no one bid on (I was going to, but never did). I tried looking at the completed listings but could not see it now. I believe it was in the States. If I remember who it was from again, I will post the details. Sorry.

[fuzz63]

Hi KrameRemark:thumbsup , I also saw that, after the auction was finished on the ebay.Nobody bid it so i did a search and i found the seller.
The seller was kristin@bcrmusic.com and that bridge was that one http://i30.tinypic.com/2nhhp3m.jpg
so I bought it and you know the rest.
I'm still searching for two of the original Kramer little saddle screws or some with the same dimensions.
Here in Greece is almost impossible to find something similar.
I would be grateful if somebody could tell me where to find them.:scratchhe
By the way does anyone know the exact dimentions in inches to ask Stewart Mac, becouse here we count in mm.:help
Thanks

[KrameRemarK]

Ah yes, that's the one! :thumbsup
Sorry, I didn't take a good look at the pic in the first post!
I thought it was less than $100 too. Looked OK from the angle of the picture also, what a shame.
Now let me understand, you need 2 of the long screws which adjust the intonation? Or you need two allen key grub screws which adjust the saddle height? We are also in mm over here and not imperial. Let me know.

[KrameRemarK]

Hey, Steve EZ just helped me out with a site which may also be of interest to you for some parts.

The link below will take you to the screws section. There are grub screws on there which may help (if you are after these).

http://www.guitarnucleus.com/gnstore/screws.html#bhs

Again, thanks Steve EZ for providing this link in the first instance! :headbang

[fuzz63]

Thanks Krameremark & Steve EZ for the help.:toast

I need two allen key grub screws which adjust the saddle height.
Do you know which is the right one to crab from http://www.guitarnucleus.com/gnstore/screws.html#bhs

Is there enybody out there who can spcifies the exact dimensions of those screws?

Thanks again for your invaluable help!:urock
Take care.....

[fuzz63]

Anybody knows something more?:help

[wuttin]

Surprised this thread i still alive....you've been at it for awhile.

Here's the deal...when I was given my 650G back in the 80's some of the bridge pieces you need had been swapped for replacements. I had a friend machine me a whole new set using one of the originals as a guide. I still have the originals, either 4 or 5 sets, including the saddle pieces, grub nuts, tension springs and allen head adjuster screws. Let's talk.

Rock On, Steve

[fuzz63]

Where are you wuttin?

[wuttin]

Where are you wuttin?

Sorry...haven't logged in for a few days, just got your PM. I'll send you an email and we can discuss.

Enjoy, Steve

[wuttin]

Sorry...haven't logged in for a few days, just got your PM. I'll send you an email and we can discuss.

Enjoy, Steve

PM Sent...just respond back to the PM

[fuzz63]

OK Steve , i just sent you a pm and email
:thumbsup

[fuzz63]

PM Sent...just respond back to the PM

Hey Steve ,
where are you?:help

[wuttin]

Howdy,

Sorry for the delay...quite a busy weekend...first time I've logged on in days.

Got your PM...I'll send you out the pair of grub nuts tomorrow...my gift to you as one 650G fan to another.

Let me know when they arrive safely.

Enjoy and best of luck,
Steve

[fuzz63]

What can i say Steve?

You are my hero!!!
One million thanks are not enough to tell you how greteful i feel for you.
The most important , is that here in the Kramer forum community you prove for real that we can all benefit of helping each other.

If you'll ever need anykind of help , or search for something hard to find like i did , don't hasitate to tell me.

Take care!:urock
Your friend
Georgios:toast

[wuttin]

Hey Georgios,

My pleasure...glad to help you restore your beast.

I sent the parts out this morning in a brown envelope taped to a small piece of paper inside. It should arrive between 5 and 10 days from now. Just let me know when they get there and if they're what you're after...that's thanks enough.

Best of luck, S:toast

[fuzz63]

God bless you Steve!!!
So kind of you to help me.

If you'll ever come to Greece just tell me!
I'll keep you informed when they arrive.

Thank you my friend:urock :toast

[nightwatch]

This is just awesome - I'm glad you've been helped and your guitar will be ready to play soon. This is the best forum:headbang :headbang :bananahea

[edgarmolina]

^+1 this is actually a brotherhood ;) perhaps somebody wanna send me a old boss me-50 that has lying around and dont use :D


nah just kidding (but if so, tell me)

[lostinthemasses]

the lumie section is a special part of the forum, we're family here. we all have the best kept secret in guitar history.

[wuttin]

Hey Georgios,

Did your parts arrive? Its been about the right amount of time...just curious.

Keep me posted

Enjoy,
Steve

[fuzz63]

Hello Steve.
How are you my friend?
I hope you are just fine.:thumbsup

Unfortunatelly I have got nothing yet but i didnt want to disturb you.
I guess I have to wait a little more and I cross my fingers , waiting for them to arrive.:scratchhe
I hope everything to be allright.
By the way where do you live?
USA or somewhere else?
Thanks you so much and of course I will keep you informed when they come.:toast

[wuttin]

Hopefully there's no issues...keep me posted.

Yes, USA, central New Jersey

[fuzz63]

New Jersey ?
Nice!
At the other side of the river across NY right?
My drummer used to live there for many years.
I heard of him many stories about your place , so it looks familiar to me.
Good night Steve and I'll keep you informed.
Take care....:toast

[KrameRemarK]

This is such a great outcome! :thumbsup Just shows, a little patience and you will eventually come across what you need somehow and someday. Fantastic story and great guys here. :thumbsup

Hey fuzz63, out of curiosity, how long have you been looking for a bridge for your lumie?

[fuzz63]

This is such a great outcome! :thumbsup Just shows, a little patience and you will eventually come across what you need somehow and someday. Fantastic story and great guys here. :thumbsup

Hey fuzz63, out of curiosity, how long have you been looking for a bridge for your lumie?

About one year.
But you know i was searching all the time every little corner in the web and I sent dozens of emails to every relative forum or guitar shop to find it.
Thanks to Steve and this great forum if everything goes ok I hope soon to fix it.:toast

[fuzz63]

Hopefully there's no issues...keep me posted.

Yes, USA, central New Jersey

Hi Steve
you have a pm in your mailbox
take care
Cheers :toast

[fuzz63]

Hopefully there's no issues...keep me posted.



Hi Steve , could you please check your mailbox?
Thank you
Georgios :thumbsup

[wuttin]

Hi Georgios, according to USPS your parts have arrived...all is well?

Your item was delivered in GREECE at 2:40 PM on June 30, 2008.

Enjoy and post some pix when all is finished...

Steve

[fuzz63]

Hi Steve.Excuse me for the delay but my father had an accident and died so I was hanging around in the hospital and then in my hometown for more than a month and I had no mood to touch my pc.
Anyway the screws arrived and I hold them in my hands at last.
Thank you so much for everything and of course soon I'll post some pix with them on my bloody axe.
You are such a great person and I feel very lucky to belong in the same forum with you.
Take care:toast

[KrameRemarK]

Hi Steve.Excuse me for the delay but my father had an accident and died so I was hanging around in the hospital and then in my hometown for more than a month and I had no mood to touch my pc.


VERY, VERY sorry to read this (sad news). Hang in there buddy, as I know you will be doing it tuff for a while.

Hang out on here when you can, as there is a lot of good people on here and the odd joke/comment will hopefully put a bit of a smile on your face.

Take care ........ :thumbsup

[wuttin]

Georgios, my heart goes out to you and your family. I'll keep you in my thoughts as you look forward to the better days which are sure to come.

Your friend, Steve