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webbhead13

11-21-2007, 09:15 PM

Hey guys are any of you familiar with the
Seymour Duncan TB-4 JB pickup???
I see that they are available in a reverse zebra and I am wondering if this would be a good P/U for a original baretta tone???

Thanks!!
Bill

NightRider

11-21-2007, 10:10 PM

i would see if they have the sh4 for originality... but it should do fine

webbhead13

11-21-2007, 10:13 PM

Rick,
thanks:thumbsup
Do you know if they make that one in the reverse zebra configuration?
I like the look of the reverse zebras

NightRider

11-21-2007, 11:07 PM

yeap... they do... or atleast used to...

Full Bug

11-21-2007, 11:17 PM

Bill,

If its for "that guitar"........... try a pickup with an A2 magnet in it......it will get a very sweet sound for you. If you have a tube amp or tube preamp then try something in the 8-9K output with A2 magnet.... I think you'll like it.

The pup that was in it before you got it had a Custom Custom coil, and a 59' coil, with the Custom Custom A2 magnet........... and it was about 11K output.

I'm almost tempted to just send you one to try out in it.

Oh yeah....... a TB spaced HB will not work that great in the Baretta..... the angled HB is to put the strings directly over a pole piece on one of the coils. The EAD are over the closest to the Bridge coil screws and the GBE are over the other coil slugs. ... so stick with a SH type Duncan HB whatever you do.

PacerMedic

11-22-2007, 04:31 AM

Exactly what 'Bug said! :thumbsup Trembuckers are designed to align the pole pieces with the strings in anyu guitar that has the pickup mounted in the standard position (perpendicular to the strings). I have the TB-4 in my Jackson and it is a sweet pickup. I am going to drop a TB-4 zabra in my Impy project axe for sure! :toast

_xxx_

11-22-2007, 05:22 AM

TB-4 and SH-4 are the same pickup besides the pole-piece spacing. Of course you can use it in your Baretta. The pickup being angeled anyway, it really doesn't matter which version you take.

PacerMedic

11-22-2007, 05:38 AM

TB-4 and SH-4 are the same pickup besides the pole-piece spacing. Of course you can use it in your Baretta. The pickup being angeled anyway, it really doesn't matter which version you take.

Perhaps not, but the intention of the angled placement was to correctly align the pole pieces with the strings. The Trembucker won't do this. Still, it probably doesn't matter, but why pay the money to do something less than optimal?

BeN5150

11-22-2007, 06:01 AM

ewww..JB...lol

it will be the same thing that came in the Baretta's originally (after the Schallers).

I dont think that the type (trem bucker vs. non) will make a difference (in this case)

atomicholiday

11-22-2007, 09:31 AM

I stuck a TB-4 in one of my PC I's and it sounds great. I do eventually plan to switch it out with a SH-4 for the sake of putting it back to original.

webbhead13

11-22-2007, 09:51 AM

Bug,
Its not for "That" guitar:D
Its for a Baretta project that I'm just gettig started:thumbsup
I want the reverse zebra look like the original but if I cant get a original I want something close sound and looks wise!

Thanks for the input guys!!:notworthy :notworthy
except Ben!!:poke :poke

Full Bug

11-22-2007, 02:05 PM

you want creme and black or white and black? What body wood / fingerboard is this Baretta?

I'll look around and see if I can find something for you.

BeN5150

11-22-2007, 06:32 PM

ullathorne

11-23-2007, 12:48 AM

You mean like this one of mine Bill??
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff7/sunbites/NewBaretta.jpg

Andy.:funnel

NightRider

11-23-2007, 09:16 AM

thats a normal zebra there andy:) ... here is a reverse zebra(though its a schaller)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/rickduster/warrn.jpg
:D :D :D :D :D
here is a duncan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/rickduster/skull.jpg

webbhead13

11-23-2007, 09:27 AM

you want creme and black or white and black? What body wood / fingerboard is this Baretta?

I'll look around and see if I can find something for you.

Thanks :notworthy
Its a poplar body with a maple board
I am looking for the creme/black combo

Are all schaller reverse zebras the same?
they didnt make different pickups like SD that look the same did they??:scratchhe

NightRider

11-23-2007, 10:08 AM

i think they are all the same... not sure though

webbhead13

11-23-2007, 10:29 AM

How about between years Rick?
would a '85 be the same as a '84
when did Schaller stop making them??

OK,.... I'm going to VK right now!!

ullathorne

11-23-2007, 10:41 AM

Rick, You have some amazing guitars My Friend.:drool :drool

Andy.:funnel

webbhead13

11-23-2007, 10:46 AM

ANDY!!

NO :yikes
:arrg dont feed into it!!:arrg

:eviltongu Its pure evil thats all!!:eviltongu

Rick has tormented me with that maple nana for the better part of 3 years!!:eviltongu :eviltongu

ONE DAY!!:arrg
:funny :funny

NightRider

11-23-2007, 11:06 AM

thanks andy... never mind that bill guy.... but bill it looks like thay still make them
http://schaller-electronic.com/hp12743/Humbucker.htm

webbhead13

11-23-2007, 11:22 AM

Thanks:thumbsup

mike-o

11-23-2007, 11:44 AM

The JB responds differently in different amps. It's a fairly bright pickup that can have a harsh upper end in some amps. What amp do you use?

webbhead13

11-23-2007, 01:36 PM

Right now,I'm using a POS first edition line 6 spider and after endless hours I have finally found a sound I can live with!
Everything sounds bright in my house I dont have any carpet and old wet plaster walls.
Yes they are real wood floors!:thumbsup
So ive kinda had to learn how to knock it down a bit!
I have a Lynch screamin demon in my 5150 and I got it to sound alright and that one seemed on the bright side to me!
I'm kinda anal about originality so I want to get as close as I can, until I can, if that makes sense!

Full Bug

11-24-2007, 05:52 PM

webbhead13

11-24-2007, 06:11 PM

Well the Screamin Demon has same A5 magnet but about 5K lower output than a JB... so if you think that was bright.......... watch out!

Those damned JB's are too spiky on the highs for my taste.

And I've never cared for Poplar bodies either so you are way beyond my ability to comprehend your tonal desires.....LOL

The Lynch SD is in a focus 1000 body and I would guess it was made of basswood or poplar and I think that added to the brightness of the Pup.

But I just snagged the PUp from Rod:thumbsup
Problem solved!!
thanks guys!!

_xxx_

11-27-2007, 05:20 AM

Perhaps not, but the intention of the angled placement was to correctly align the pole pieces with the strings.

No, the intention was to cover the area under the strings so the outer two E strings don't lose volume. Both have non-properly aligned pole-pieces anyway when slanted.