Kramer mutt?

[geriol03]

Do anyone know what this model is?
http://www.blocket.se/vi/12424041.htm?ca=11_s

The only info the seller tells is:
It's a "Kramer American" and it's a lefty.

With some browsing true the web, me with my minor knowledge of kramers (and guitars in general) think it looks like a Pacer/Stagemaster mutt or something...

please enlighten me guys :notworthy

[KramerUK]

From that pic there doesn't look to be anything wrong with it IMO, Matching headstock PCI from around 1986, looks to be from the period when they switched to a recessed FR, so the serial should be an E with a number somewhere around the 1200 mark.
Ask for the serial number and that should confirm things, but having a matching headstock is perfectly OK for that era.

[geriol03]

Thank you for your quick reply. So this is probably a complete model? A Stagemaster?

Sending an email to get serial number.

[KramerUK]

No not stagemaster, they are set neck.

That one looks to be a mid/late 1986 Pacer Custom 1 ( PCI ) :thumbsup

[pel666]

Second dibs here...if you let it pass!!!

This is what I have been looking for...

[geriol03]

Oh I see. Didn't understand what PCI was standing for. :D

[KramerUK]

Certainly looks very clean, and thats a come and get me price as well IMO

[geriol03]

Back with serial number: E13599
The seller thinks the model name is "Neptune.NJ" so he doesn't seems to know a lot about it.

Sent another email requesting more pictures and will post these here if there is an interest?

pel666 - Don't hessitate bidding on the guitar aswell. Since I see you have been looking for a lefty pacer for a while if I remember correctly. It's hard for us leftys in Europe. :arrg

The guitars price is in 3800 skr ~ 400 euro. But it have been out on the ads for a while. Another one is also interested in the guitar, and was going to look at the guitar this week. But according to the seller he haven't showned up yet.

That's all I know for now, hopefully will be back with pictures later on today.

Edit: Tried translating the whole ad:
"Selling my darlings 1st Ibanez Rg470L in very good condition+softcase price 3800kr. 1 Kramer American in good condtition+hardcase 3800kr(were 12500kr new). New strings comes along with both guitars. Very good and easy played. When buying both, cheaper price. Additional cargo prices."

[RockStringBender]

Hit this link and go to the PC1 pointy neck straight logo headstocks.

http://www.vintagekramer.com/pacer2.htm


That is a nice guitar and the matching headstock is a plus. If you do not snag this alert pel so we can keep it in the family :thumbsup

[pel666]

Just called the guy, and again the stereotype Swedish guy has been confirmed...very friendly without BS, and his English was pretty good :thumbsup

Thanks for Geriol letting me know he was gonna let it go, I gave him first dibs and was waiting anxious...

Sale is pending...bit expensive gettin' it home, but I think she's worth it :headbang Finally I will have something to register at VK :D

EDIT: Remy, did I ever play one of these at your place???

[geriol03]

Well i'm a newbie here so I have to suck up to the veterans. :rules

Can't wait until you get her, so we gonna see some nice pics of the beauty? :drool

[pel666]

Not really....you spotted it so you got first dibs!

I will certainly post pics :thumbsup

Thanks again for the find :headbang

[geriol03]

Nice to hear :)

[geriol03]

How is the trade going?

[pel666]

Finally got the bank details...he sounds genuine, but in case he screws me I will hand you the details :guns

In the end it will set me back about 7 bills, but I think she's worth it...he is 3rd owner and had it for 5 years. Today I will wire the dough, and will be waiting impatiently for the TNT guy ;)

[geriol03]

Glad to hear, was a bit worried since the ad was still at the webpage.

Yeah I got the same impression about him. But if he screws you, I will pay him a little visit... :chainsaw

[KramerUK]

Great news Mies, have to let us know that things have gone well, that one looks very clean :drool

[pel666]

Finally made the payment, what a hassle international transfer...and the cost to do so are more than PayPal :-|

Told the guy to pack it carefully, seen plenty of broken headstocks due to shipping expecially on the forum....will keep you posted :thumbsup

[pel666]

It will be shipped tomorrow... :jump

Can't wait, am wondering what shape she'll be in...not to mention the fact the misses doesn't know 'bout it ;)

[pel666]

She's airborne!!!

Can't....handle.....the......pressure :D

[JimmyDenton]

dude thats great news, that link doesnt work no more, so im kinda excited to see your pics mate:thumbsup

[pel666]

I can tell you I haven't felt my stomache on presents/purchases for a long time....but this one get's me all hyped up. Mere for the reason I haven't played a decent stock lefty ever period! The 2K lesters sucked, Jackson you have to go customshop ($$$) and Ibanez...well don't even want to go there. If I had known before, I would have gone Kramer but it had a bad rep overhere probably due to overseas striker imports rather than the US ones which actually never really set foot here....a few more days :headbang

[PacerMedic]

I hope it's a good rapture Mies! Post pics when you get her. :toast

[geriol03]

I can tell you I haven't felt my stomache on presents/purchases for a long time....but this one get's me all hyped up. Mere for the reason I haven't played a decent stock lefty ever period! The 2K lesters sucked, Jackson you have to go customshop ($$$) and Ibanez...well don't even want to go there. If I had known before, I would have gone Kramer but it had a bad rep overhere probably due to overseas striker imports rather than the US ones which actually never really set foot here....a few more days :headbang

Do you feel like a kid the day before christmas? :xmas

You just better prepare your camera bc the audience is craving lots of pictures! :jump

[KramerUK]

Yep make sure those batteries are ready to go straight into the camera Mies ;)

Got us all just as excited about this one, your first stock lefty after all these years :thumbsup

[pel666]

The postmen just left! :headbang

First impressions:

One major ding on the front, lotsa buckle rash and dents on the back. Screw in Floyd, but the plastic ring came off the first time I put in the handle bar (any idea where I can get a new one?). I have some extra collar replacement studs, but want to keep it original! Was shipped in the case just like that, major damage to the case unfortunately (why do people do that?). The neck is so full of guey, it is hard to see the fretboard. Tremstop has been removed. Floyd is setup wrong, and the neck is not aligned...I am happy it arrived in one piece :headbang

So in short, it needs a lot of TLC and I will post pics once I am done :thumbsup

[80zUbet]

Where are the pics?


The postmen just left! :headbang

First impressions:

One major ding on the front, lotsa buckle rash and dents on the back. Screw in Floyd, but the plastic ring came off the first time I put in the handle bar (any idea where I can get a new one?). I have some extra collar replacement studs, but want to keep it original! Was shipped in the case just like that, major damage to the case unfortunately (why do people do that?). The neck is so full of guey, it is hard to see the fretboard. Tremstop has been removed. Floyd is setup wrong, and the neck is not aligned...I am happy it arrived in one piece :headbang

So in short, it needs a lot of TLC and I will post pics once I am done :thumbsup

[pel666]

I'll post them tonite in the American section :thumbsup

[nightwatch]

Sounds like it just needs a good cleaning and set up. I bet it will turn out to be great.:bananahea

[pel666]

See post http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=197952#post197952 :headbang

[Warlord]

yeah lefty ibanez sucks, voice of experience :arrg