Some more Kline Eye Candy

[metlhed5150]

Been reading through the threads here and thought I would add my own guitar to the ones already posted. Bought this guitar from a coworker when I worked in Lakewood , NJ . The sig ddn't come out too well in the photo, but it reads 'Kline 85' . Enjoy all .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/crais5150/project1.jpg

[GtarShark]

Jambo! Welcome to the 4um. :thumbsup

Nice! Well damn there's ANOTHER Kline I've not seen B4. :headbang

We gotta find Dennis, hell skydive69 knows him.

Edit:
Here's another oddball (I just like posting this one cause I want it lol)...

http://www.halograf.com/octoman2.jpg


Lee

[SlipSlidinSlim]

I remember seeing that octoman graphic on ebay a while back. Didn't pay much attention to it because i though it was fake. :lol

[GtarShark]

I wish Eshmay kept long term archiving, I'd own that thing if I could find it's current owner.

*This pic sux cause I blew it up to near pixels.


Lee

[PittJitsu]

Been reading through the threads here and thought I would add my own guitar to the ones already posted. Bought this guitar from a coworker when I worked in Lakewood , NJ . The sig ddn't come out too well in the photo, but it reads 'Kline 85' . Enjoy all .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/crais5150/project1.jpg
Small and clean. I really Like that one. Its not dated looking at all. Is it a one off or have you seen more of this grafic?

[metlhed5150]

Small and clean. I really Like that one. Its not dated looking at all. Is it a one off or have you seen more of this grafic?


I believe it's a one off. I've never seen the design anywhere else.

[xbolt]

That looks great & quite cool/minimalistic on the older white pacer body! :headbang

[JimmyDenton]

is that a standard trem?

[Snowdog]

Very, very cool!

I never realized there were so many graphics done.

[TommysGs]

The Kline's are awesome. :headbang

I don't have any graphic Baretta's to date.

[nightwatch]

That looks like he was gearing up for a full blown graphic like snowdog has! I like the elegent simplicity too.

Snowdog, go over to vintage Kramer and look under the parts and paint section. There are pages of pics of different grahics that were done at Kramer. Also, the collections section, and the registry. Awesome stuff.

Also, search the word "klines" on here. there was a thread awhile ago where everyone showed pics of their Kines.

[unchained1984]

Again we're looking at a theme developing there when comparing with the reeel to reel & train wheels this one seems to echo the same approach as nightwatch has just said.

Sandy

[RockStringBender]

I wish Eshmay kept long term archiving, I'd own that thing if I could find it's current owner.

*This pic sux cause I blew it up to near pixels.


Lee


That one (Octoman) went to ebayer mper203878 ;)

[skydive69]

someone about a month ago was asking me if i had a pic of that guitar. the paint job is called "crack 'n gears". i have it similarly painted on one of my mx helmets. bigger crack and more gears tho.

no, its not a 1 off......... and i stopped at dennis' house last week on my way home from my shore houses, and someone answered the door, said that they used to get calls for a while looking for him (guess they didnt change the phone #) after they moved in, and they think he moved "somewhere around the block" but didnt know where. they knew he was "some artist from seaside" ( actually, no , toms river, where they live now......duh)

im at a loss.

-edit again-
sorry i screwed up. there was a "gears I" and "gears II" this one looks like gears I

[KramerAmsterdam]

So where is he and does he still paint? I cannot believewe have been looking for this man for 2 years and he has not appeared? Or..does someone keep the info to himslef and is piling up original Kline's for future reference.

Remy

[skydive69]

some you may have seen, some not.........
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p205/skydive69/dkcollage.jpg

[GtarShark]

So where is he and does he still paint? I cannot believewe have been looking for this man for 2 years and he has not appeared? Or..does someone keep the info to himslef and is piling up original Kline's for future reference.

Remy

Personally I think if he's still in this country Remy he's 6' under. Sad but somebody would have found him by now I'm sure.


Lee

[unchained1984]

I remember Dan following some leads in Toms River but it being fruitless, we reckoned he'd be getting on a bit sure enough but ever hopeful the man is still around to get the plaudits he's owed. I think the best bet would be to get in touch with some of the custom bike painting community over that side.

Sandy

[GtarShark]

There's an :idea :)


Lee

[GtarShark]

That one (Octoman) went to ebayer mper203878 ;)

Says "User ID invalid" ....oh well, thx.

About how long ago was this?


Lee

[unchained1984]

I know Gary Kramer used Nubby a couple of times for custom jobs on the delta wing. Nubby being the dude that does some work for Orange County Choppers on Discovery. Not exactly in the same neck of the woods though (just the same state).

Sandy

[amerturk]

OK guys, here is how you do it.

Find the State you think he is in.

Find a Law Enforcement buddy or a 911 operator and ask if a DMV record exists. Don't ask for an address, it illegal.

Go to the DMV and request an address or contact number. If they won't give it, say you had an accident with that person and you are trying to contact them...offer your info if needed.

If this dude is alive and kicking, he can be found.

My guess is that he has no computer and has no idea he has a following that wants to pick his brain and ask for some more custom work.

[RockStringBender]

Says "User ID invalid" ....oh well, thx.

About how long ago was this?


Lee


06AUG06 losthorizons21 sold it to the emperor dude for 204.95 plus shipping...

[GtarShark]

06AUG06 losthorizons21 sold it to the emperor dude for 204.95 plus shipping...

Thx, I messaged losthorizons21 on it and will see if he reps ...there is no sale I find on Aug 6-06

:scratchhe


Lee

[PittJitsu]

OK guys, here is how you do it.

Find the State you think he is in.

Find a Law Enforcement buddy or a 911 operator and ask if a DMV record exists. Don't ask for an address, it illegal.

Go to the DMV and request an address or contact number. If they won't give it, say you had an accident with that person and you are trying to contact them...offer your info if needed.

If this dude is alive and kicking, he can be found.

My guess is that he has no computer and has no idea he has a following that wants to pick his brain and ask for some more custom work.

Sorry for the dumb question, but im not a klein guy, whats his first name and aprox age? My family is all cops and lawyers, I want to see what is in the Ny and NJ records.

[GtarShark]

Actually the easy way (if Kline was official K employee) would be just to contact any of the CO principals and see if they have records of his withholding -like SS# <---then you have him.


Lee

[GtarShark]

Sorry for the dumb question, but im not a klein guy, whats his first name and aprox age? My family is all cops and lawyers, I want to see what is in the Ny and NJ records.

Dennis Kline ...I wouldn't have a clue on age.


Lee

[RockStringBender]

Late 50's maybe early 60's. have them run it with one N too (denis) :thumbsup

[GtarShark]

Late 50's maybe early 60's. have them run it with one N too (denis) :thumbsup

Did you see where I posted to you that there's no sale date on Octoman for 6-06 . There's the Losthorizon guy tho ...I messaged him.


Lee

[GtarShark]

What about what I said earlier about contacting some of the principles and see if there's any employment records for Kramer Corp left. Wouldn't Kline's be there and if so you'd have an SS # -then you got him.


Lee

[RockStringBender]

The pics are gone but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D250012744499%26fvi%3D1&item=250012744499&rd=1

I was interested in that one and no conclusion was reached on the forum discussion at the time. I archived the page after it sold and the pics are there. I don't know how to post the archive. It is saved as 'webfiile single file". That's where I pulled the item number to find the link.

I think they pull the records too fast too. We would have a tremendous sales record and a tool to see the frequency of certain models floating up out of the wild iIf we could search completed kramer auctions back several years or more.......

[RockStringBender]

Hey- I just hit that buyer's handle and he comes up active with 100% feedback. Maybe you can find him>

[GtarShark]

Hey- I just hit that buyer's handle and he comes up active with 100% feedback. Maybe you can find him>

I just now messaged the winner (couldn't B4 for some reason). Now both have messages from me. Thanks, surely the winner will reply- I begged him!! :D


Lee

[PittJitsu]

I will have Denis and Dennis Both run Monday. Along with a ton of Law peeps, My best friend ( yeah I'm still 12) is a constable for all of NJ and NY. When You Owe anything to any co, he is the guy who finds your assets. He has access to SS#'s. bank accounts and Dl. He says there is software for such chasing and he bets he can find said paint person. Poor guy, He is going to see like 200 long hairs holding money at the door of whatever convalescent center he is in. :D

Next question.... Did he paint these here in Neptune? where did he do his work? he must have been a fellow Jersey resident Correct? If necessery, I will knock on doors in his neighborhood and see who remembers the 80's. neighbors love to gab

Don't bury this guy just yet, remember that anyone over about 45 has a darn good chance of not being Internet savvy. Yes Its true, people can survive without this toaster, and some even use something called a pencil and paper. I hear of elders who can add too. So he might just be out there.

[GtarShark]

"Next question.... Did he paint these here in Neptune? where did he do his work?"

Pitt from what others who knew him have posted I read Kline usually took the bodies home and painted em. And ostensibly that would have been in Neptune, I guess.


Lee

[lefthandedshredder]

some you may have seen, some not.........
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p205/skydive69/dkcollage.jpg

Wheres this from!??

[PittJitsu]

"Next question.... Did he paint these here in Neptune? where did he do his work?"

Pitt from what others who knew him have posted I read Kline usually took the bodies home and painted em. And ostensibly that would have been in Neptune, I guess.


Lee
Thanks Lee, I will be back there Sun. Lets see what I can get from the local cop at the desk. Its a vacation spot down the eastern shore, so this time of year its a barren desolate place with few visitors. Its a good time to bug the municipality without taxing their delicate system. ha ha. OK there are like 3 cops and a guy who is the mayor, the Life guard and the owner of the dry cleaners.

[PittJitsu]

Where is that guy who had Klein paint him guitars. Didnt he know him personaly?


Here is my email to nosy family member.
PS want anyone elses credit ruined? I can try and forward Eddie Vh's mail to your address mike?...

I have work for your super system bro....
Here is the deal. Back in the 80's there was an artist who hand painted guitars here in NJ. His name was or is Dennis Klein. Or Denis Some say. He worked as an employee of the now defunkt Kramer guitars in Neptune NJ. For years now Guitars with his paintings on them Get Many bids on ebay. They are Liked by a selct club of geeks, not unlike the Tail wheel planes. So My club on the net The Kramer Form, has been looking to find this Holy grail for about 3 years now. Of course you can imagine that rumors fly, he is dead, he is in a nursing home etc. He is in his late 50's to late 60's and so he might not be internet savy. One guy said he may have been gay, so maybe he has no kids tell him he is somewhat famous, so We are hoping to find something on this guy. All I have for you to go on is that name, and the fact that he was a resident in Neptune NJ in the mid 80's he painted these guitarts into about 1987. Rumor has it that he would visit the factory, take the guitars home paint them and return. So that's what I have to go on... Can you see if any bank account or anything on a man with this common name exists in NJ? Denis, or dennis Klein...

In case you care here is some of his work collected by a maniac fan and friend of mine.. http://vintagekramer.com/classic8.htm

Thanks Man
G

His reply......
Wow your up early.
Just tried, only found 46yr old on monmouth county , called the number and the guy went off on me "nicely" explained it was early for a wrong number etc. no I dea who I was talking about. My access searches current location and results with sharing the previous if recorder in history by any law or collection agency. Only Klein in NJ startin with D / Male / in that age range 65-85 were a few Donalds / I can show you monday and will try from the office (older data base) Try to scrape up more info . Kids names...possible new State ..do not say florida! many many many names like Klein im FLORIDA If you get me.

KIRK OUT

[amerturk]

To this site a favor: If you find info on Dennis, DO NOT POST IT HERE, or please don't give out the info in the PM's.

We must respect the privacy of individuals. Maybe if he is hard to find, he made it that way...or if we are lucky, he will be excited that he has a cult following and make a guest appearance. Anyway, I would hate to see some guy get calls from all over the world because a phone number was posted.

I did this one time as a joke on EVH.com I told everyone I had Eddie's cell number and not to call it. I lead them on for awhile and finally posted it. THe number was to the LA county morgue. Man those dudes were effin pissed! Calls all throughout the day from all over the world asking for Ed. It's a funny story but you get the point.

[GtarShark]

Good thinking Tim, we don't want to...well, what you said. :thumbsup

I'm bettin we find him eventually though, well maybe.


Lee

[Lieutenant Dan]

Pitt, his last name was actually spelled "Kline", that should help ;)

Dan

[GtarShark]

That's what I said ya bastage! :D


Lee

[Midnight_Highway]

some you may have seen, some not.........
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p205/skydive69/dkcollage.jpg

Too Cool! And my TS "Come Out and Play" baretta is in there! Incredible wealth of info.

George

[GtarShark]

Yeah, thatz a neat collage. :thumbsup


Lee

[nightwatch]

I like the Octoman in there. Its great to see it without the neck pickup route - you can kind of see what that area looked like.

That is an awesome collage. Too bad we couldn't blow it up and make it a Kramer forum poster.

[Ace]

Is the guy on the left half way down, playing a Graphic Spector bass? Wouldn't that be a find?

And what's the one between New York, New York and Hotel California on the right? Looks like 'IDOL'

[JimmyDenton]

nikki sixx, i dont play bass but ide have it ;)

[Ace]

That'd be him on the bottom row too, plaing a skull and bones Spector. I hadn't know about Kline Spector basses 'til I saw this photo, thanks for sharing Vinnie.

[PittJitsu]

Pitt, his last name was actually spelled "Kline", that should help ;)

Dan

Well thats going to make a huge difference! ha ha. thanks Dan.

As for Posting his info, fear not. Not only wont I post it, But if I find him alive and In good standing rest assured I will be trading him Metamucil for some slightly off art work. Artwork sold at www dot pit needs cash dot com. :D

No really I will approach this with all the grace I can muster.

[GtarShark]

Hey hey! I said 'KLINE' :arrg :D


Lee

[PittJitsu]

Hey hey! I said 'KLINE' :arrg :D


Lee

Now lee, Its clear to all of us here that you where obviously drunk or on your Heavy metal drugs when you first gave me the info. The first step is admitting you have a problem. I see that you apparently edited your post to right the wrong that you did write.. Now Since I consider you a friend, I'm going to keep this one between you and I. I'm going to take the Fall my friend. I'm going to pretend I'm such a dolt that I cannot comprehend the simple 2 lines of information I was to ingest.. OK? Now next time its not going to go like this my Little friend in a helmet, So no thank you's needed, lets just keep this quiet and between us, but Please man, lay off the juice Mr Cobain. :urock :D :headbang :happy1

[GtarShark]

I like the Octoman in there. Its great to see it without the neck pickup route - you can kind of see what that area looked like.

That is an awesome collage. Too bad we couldn't blow it up and make it a Kramer forum poster.

Well actually Gale I had that idea way back and campaigned and campaigned and campaigned some more. I got about 17 pics from members and I needed about 150-200. Oh well.


Lee

[PittJitsu]

How much to make it a poster Lee? Lets do it.

[GtarShark]

How much to make it a poster Lee? Lets do it.

Uh, how much what pics? money? what?

I might could work on it again with Jeff (Gilker) ;;;I dunno.


Lee

[PittJitsu]

Yes, I'm assuming you needed these votes to determine how many would sell to cover the cost of printing. I was thinking that with the currant rage of all that is Kramer and Kline <spell ha that you would sell off many of them.

[GtarShark]

The printing would be outrageous, I know that. I'd campaigned for a bigass web collage piece tho. Printing posters on minmum I'd say MAYBE 500$ to even get started.

I dunno much about poster pricing, I just do the art work and the printer/s handles the rest.


Lee

[GtarShark]

The pics are gone but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D250012744499%26fvi%3D1&item=250012744499&rd=1

I was interested in that one and no conclusion was reached on the forum discussion at the time. I archived the page after it sold and the pics are there. I don't know how to post the archive. It is saved as 'webfiile single file". That's where I pulled the item number to find the link.

I think they pull the records too fast too. We would have a tremendous sales record and a tool to see the frequency of certain models floating up out of the wild iIf we could search completed kramer auctions back several years or more.......

Hey RSB, thanks. I got a reply from the owner of Octoman. Sadly 4 me. he's not selling it but in my reply I thanked him and asked for some pics and said I'd post them here. Also invited him to come join the forum.

Here's his initial reply:

"Hi Lee,

Thanks for the message. Unfortunately I already built the guitar back up. The project turned into a runaway freight train. I even managed to add to the body's issues that were already basically unrepairable. The guitar will never be to the level where many Kramer Collectors would want it. It is a long story, but I made some bad calls. My plan of bulding my "Ultimate Kramer" turned into a "Seriously Expensive, Seriously Messed Up Kramer". I do love the thing though! If I ever sold it, I would loose my shirt and the buyer would probably eventually be unsatisfied because some flaws just can't be covered up 100%.

Thanks - mper203878"

...maybe I can persuade him to sell it! :thumbsup


Lee

[breadmanofscience]

Did anyone try zabasearch.com. I saw a Dennis Kline in Toms River, NJ. as of 2002. And there is a few other Dennis Klines in NY/NJ that put him in the right age bracket. W/ a little leg work, Im sure he is an easy find.

[nightwatch]

Cool you got ahold of him Lee. From the sound of it, I'm almost afraid to think what he's done to Octoman :-x

I'll send you my Kline pics for a poster. I think a poster would look good with them lying sideways, like on that collage. Maybe it could be a special expo thing, or, maybe we could get the collage that we're looking at here blown up.

If he sends pics of Octoman - I'd love to see them.

[GtarShark]

Cool you got ahold of him Lee. From the sound of it, I'm almost afraid to think what he's done to Octoman :-x

I'll send you my Kline pics for a poster. I think a poster would look good with them lying sideways, like on that collage. Maybe it could be a special expo thing, or, maybe we could get the collage that we're looking at here blown up.

If he sends pics of Octoman - I'd love to see them.

I think the guy butchered it personally and that baloney about him havin sunk a bunch a' cash in it's just jive. Should I get pics I'll sure post em here!


Lee

[skydive69]

I think the guy butchered it personally and that baloney about him havin sunk a bunch a' cash in it's just jive. Should I get pics I'll sure post em here!


Lee

for the answer on where he painted them, he did it right at home in his basement.

guys, please, chill a little, ill find him. dont want to get him pissed off with all of you talking about checking bank records and employment records and personal info about him on the internet. any search of his name in a search engine will turn up these posts because its now public info.

[GtarShark]

for the answer on where he painted them, he did it right at home in his basement.

guys, please, chill a little, ill find him. dont want to get him pissed off with all of you talking about checking bank records and employment records and personal info about him on the internet. any search of his name in a search engine will turn up these posts because its now public info.

Nobody's freakin man, we been lookin for him long before you reg'd here tho so it's exciting.

:)


Lee

[skydive69]

s'cool........hes been found, im sure he will wander in soon. its just peoples personal info is, well, personal.

[GtarShark]

s'cool........hes been found, im sure he will wander in soon. its just peoples personal info is, well, personal.

Oh nobody's invading his space ...I am sure he's surprised tho. :)


Lee

[PittJitsu]

Lee, and the rest. I'm here in Neptune Now. I am doing nothing but whats legal and I intend on nothing more then to make this person or their estate aware of there status in this community. If he or his agents embrace that news and care to rear their head(s) great, if not that's fine too. At least we will know whats what.

I volunteered to do this because I read that nobody knew the ultimate whereabouts of Mr Kline. If its some sort of Kramer myth and you all want to keep him an enigma, thats fine too, I will keep the info to myself.

[GtarShark]

What up Pitt? There's no prob here! Hey! ALL COOL!!

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[PittJitsu]

What up Pitt? There's no prob here! Hey! ALL COOL!!

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Great! Just dont want to step on the toesies here. ;)